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Do illegal immigrants help or hurt the economy?

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I wasn't expecting these results. lol


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I guess it's because they take jobs away from the legal workers who can't get a job then. Who knows....
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Illegal immigrants will destroy this country before anything else. even if they don't mean to.

for every 1,000 people living off the radar, you throw off EVERY calculation of the financial strategies driving this country.

without the ability to get sound data, we simply can not TRULY grasp any legitimate scope of the state of America.

say for example, you are trying to evacuate before a disaster in the U.S. How will say, 425,000 undocumented persons (and say 30% of them have vehicles) impact your ability to get your people out of the area anticipating the catastrophe?

hmm, 127,500 extra cars in that rush to safety may not be that many after all.

and what have they done to my NATIONAL ANTHEM??? ARGH!!

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ahahaahaha good answer raum...but the main problem is the delinquency, many of them came in other state and are unable to do a work, so they became pusher, or thief
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Illegals hurt the economy and as RAUM mentioned, any sort of census you make regarding population. They become a problem real quick. The same issue is present in PR with the arrival of folks from the Dominican Republic. The same problems regarding jobs is seen here, with the same results. They will work for much less, money goes over there, and eventually where there was 5, there are now 20.

I wash my hands of the Anthem issue...I haven't even heard the Spanish version, I don't care to.

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I was just skimming through an article on CNN.com. This annoyed me...

""We are the backbone of what America is, legal or illegal, it doesn't matter," Melanie Lugo, who with her husband and their third-grade daughter was among thousands attending a rally in Denver, Colorado, told The Associated Press."

It's that kind of mentality that's going to destroy the fucking country. I think it's time the National Guard stopped by NYC and Chicago and Miami and start deporting some illegal immigrants.

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Agreed, this isn't to mention the drain on healthcare, public schools, welfare, etc. Each of these illegals take money away from those who have a legitimate need. Every dollar that goes to support someone who snuck in this country is a dollar that won't go to a LEGAL American or immigrant.

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So, does anyone know if they really had an impact? I'll laugh my ass off if they didn't. lol

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that it didn't do shit. Someone would've cried "uncle!" by now if that were the case. I'm sure it made some difference, just not the US-crippling "wet" dream they had hoped for. Mainly because it was not properly organized, from what i've read.

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less than one hundred business with over 1000 employees closed, mosly meat packing plants and warehouses.

the effect on small or independent business is unknown.

no distinct impact on consumer spending, the highest reported was loss of 52 million in Los Angeles, which is less than 5% of the economy. Business closing was most felt in the prepared foods industry, not the produce industry. Some of these colsings may have been voluntary, or mandated by unions (who want that worker's rights dollar, even when they don't earn it).

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Tyson Foods closed meatpacking plants, citing market conditions and a possible shortage of workers.

Cargill Meat Solutions, the No. 2 US beef producer and No. 3 pork producer, closed five of its U.S. beef plants and two hog plants due to the immigration rallies. 15,000 workers were given the day off.[49]

Smithfield Foods of Virginia said it will take time on Monday to help employees to write to United States senators and representatives with demands for changes in immigration law, including "a path to citizenship for those who are willing to work," according to a company press release.[50]

Some McDonald's restuarants in Alexandria, Virginia, had signs posted on their front doors stating, "Sorry, no service today except for Drive-Thru service" due to staff shortage.

Goya Foods, which bills itself as the nation's largest Hispanic-owned food chain, suspended delivery everywhere except Florida, saying it wanted to express solidarity with immigrants who are its primary customers.[51]

In Los Angeles, the 7th Street produce market, which supplies thousands of Southern California restaurants and markets, was closed for business. Many smaller businesses throughout the U.S. were also closed as a result of staff shortages or as a show of support for the boycott.

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