no raum - i can't find another story about it, but maybe that is because it is not confirmed by a collection of sources, as opposed to one?! I know the BBC does not jump on the bandwagon, before it has multiple entries to the same story...
you seem to believe that having only one account of the survivor means you automatically need to believe it. For me that is a reason to (1) take it into account as well, but to (2) also distrust it.
and indeed: you HAVE bias. you are not approaching this objectively anymore!
Israeli shell kills civilians on beach...
-
raum
- Posts: 3944
- Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:51 am
what part of this isn't bias?
i suppose the fact that Hamas operative Faiz Abu Shamala who is a senior correspondent for the palestinian BBC is just a objective reporter, huh? which is why he is known for saying the media is "waging the campaign shoulder-to-shoulder together with the Palestinian people."
i suppose the fact that Hamas operative Faiz Abu Shamala who is a senior correspondent for the palestinian BBC is just a objective reporter, huh? which is why he is known for saying the media is "waging the campaign shoulder-to-shoulder together with the Palestinian people."
| BBcode: | |
| Hide post links |
-
Brains
- Posts: 549
- Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:14 am
-
raum
- Posts: 3944
- Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:51 am
There was the disturbing case of Fayad Abu Shamala, the BBC Arabic Service correspondent, who addressed a Hamas rally on May 6, 2001, and was recorded declaring that journalists in Gaza, apparently including the BBC, were "waging the campaign shoulder to shoulder together with the Palestinian people."
Pressed for an explanation, the subsequent BBC statement said: "Fayad's remarks were made in a private capacity. His reports have always matched the best standards of balance required by the BBC."
Here was the expose that only appeared in Israeli media. Being that BBC actually commented on the event, and there was a recording,.. you figured it would get more exposure.
FULL HA'ARETZ ARTICLE
FAIZ ABU SMALA WORKS FOR THE BBC AND WRITES IN FAVOUR OF ISLAM AND THE MUSLIMS
Leading Hamas preacher warns of clash with Islamic Jihad
By Arnon Regular
December 15, 2004
www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/514500.html
A growing rift between Hamas and Islamic Jihad has led to a break in cooperation between the two groups, and is threatening to lead to an all-out clash between them, according to a leading Hamas preacher who recently slammed Jihad for trying to outmuscle Hamas. "There was a time when there were more Islamic Jihadists than us, but now we are more than them, but nonetheless they have managed to take over the media and to get ahead of us, and are now intensively competing with us," said Fathi Hamad, a member of the Sura Council, the supreme Hamas religious body in Gaza responsible for the the organization's communications system in Gaza.
"An Islamic Jihad takeover would means the Shi'ites take over, and if that happens you will all be turned into heretics .... We must fight and clash with all those who are not Sunni and guarantee our faith remains pure."
Hamad have his speech a couple of months ago before a few dozen Hamas activists working in the organization's Communications Councils, whose job is to promote Hamas in the Palestinian, Arab and international press.
Hamad believed that he was speaking in a private closed forum, but the session was filmed and then distributed - a copy of which was obtained by Haaretz - sparking a dispute between the two groups. They have now cut off ties between them and have ceased cooperation, and the clash between the two Islamic fundamentalist groups is shaking up both organizations.
For years they worked side by side, more or less in harmony. During the intifada they even began cooperating militarily and claimed joint responsibility for many attacks in Gaza. But Hamad is now hinting that Islamic Jihad wants to take Hamas' place, and is citing Iraq as an example.
"Wherever Jihad fighters fought, Muslims, meaning Sunni Muslims like Hamas showed up, and then the hypocritical Sh'iites came and sat down on the chairs that became available. This is an American, Zionist, Arab Shiite plot," he said.
Hamad was saying that Islamic Jihad is financed and run by Hezbollah and Iran, the Shiite heretics according to Sunni Islam. He said the Islamic Jihad has no right to operate in the Palestinian street on ideological grounds, and pointed out that despite the Hamas' hegemony in the street, the Jihad had managed to take over "the agenda" and the media by putting its people in key jobs in the press. He called for a "media jihad," meaning getting into important Arab and Palestinian media outlets.
Hamad's talk forced an apology from senior Hamas activists to the Arab press working in Gaza, whom Hamad had accused of serving the Jihad and the Palestinian Authority.
Hamad's speech on tape opens a rare window into the balance of power inside the Gaza Strip, including Hamas relations with the PA and how it motivates its activists in the street. But more than anything, the tape shows how frustrated Hamas is that despite being by far a larger organization than Islamic Jihad, in the press, at least, they are presented as equally important.
Hamad opened his lecture with "the media is the decisive weapon," and then delivered a series of examples from the life of Mohammed the Prophet and how his sermons to his warriors determined battles. But the Hamad speech quickly turned to the subject of the Islamic Jihad.
"We outnumber them, we have many more mosques, and much more commitment, but they are ahead of us in the satellite TV stations, and their Web sites are much bigger than the group itself. They are stealing attacks from Hamas, exaggerate the number of their killed, and inflate the numbers of their street demonstrations as if they are a domestic group, even though they are supported by Hezbollah. The media has turned them into the equals of the Muslim Brotherhood," Hamad complains in the tape.
He labels specific Palestinian reporters working in Gaza, saying an Al Jazeera correspondent in Gaza, Wa'al Dahduah, is a Jihad supporter, as is Imad Eid, the Hezbollah TV correspondent in Gaza. Hamad said that Walid Alomri, the senior Al Jazeera correspondent in the territories, is a Fatah man "with a burning hatred for Hamas, and he reports tendentiously in favor of the PA."
Hamad says on tape that Hamas man Faiz Abu Smala works for the BBC, "and that way he writes the story in favor of the Islam and Muslims."
Beyond the issue of the media, there is an ideological abyss between Hamas and Islamic Jihad. While Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, believes in social activity to educate society and create an Islamic rule, the Islamic Jihad has always believed in a violent campaign to take over power centers, and its social activities were marginal. But in the last year the Islamic Jihad changed direction and began undertaking social activities in Gaza.
Three months ago, armed Islamic Jihad men took over Al Qassam mosque, a Hamas stronghold, by force, and the takeover led to armed clashes between men from both groups. Thus, Hamad complains in the tape, "the Islamic Jihad ignited our spirit of resistance when it took away our mosque, and there is a danger they will try to take over others."
Pressed for an explanation, the subsequent BBC statement said: "Fayad's remarks were made in a private capacity. His reports have always matched the best standards of balance required by the BBC."
Here was the expose that only appeared in Israeli media. Being that BBC actually commented on the event, and there was a recording,.. you figured it would get more exposure.
FULL HA'ARETZ ARTICLE
FAIZ ABU SMALA WORKS FOR THE BBC AND WRITES IN FAVOUR OF ISLAM AND THE MUSLIMS
Leading Hamas preacher warns of clash with Islamic Jihad
By Arnon Regular
December 15, 2004
www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/514500.html
A growing rift between Hamas and Islamic Jihad has led to a break in cooperation between the two groups, and is threatening to lead to an all-out clash between them, according to a leading Hamas preacher who recently slammed Jihad for trying to outmuscle Hamas. "There was a time when there were more Islamic Jihadists than us, but now we are more than them, but nonetheless they have managed to take over the media and to get ahead of us, and are now intensively competing with us," said Fathi Hamad, a member of the Sura Council, the supreme Hamas religious body in Gaza responsible for the the organization's communications system in Gaza.
"An Islamic Jihad takeover would means the Shi'ites take over, and if that happens you will all be turned into heretics .... We must fight and clash with all those who are not Sunni and guarantee our faith remains pure."
Hamad have his speech a couple of months ago before a few dozen Hamas activists working in the organization's Communications Councils, whose job is to promote Hamas in the Palestinian, Arab and international press.
Hamad believed that he was speaking in a private closed forum, but the session was filmed and then distributed - a copy of which was obtained by Haaretz - sparking a dispute between the two groups. They have now cut off ties between them and have ceased cooperation, and the clash between the two Islamic fundamentalist groups is shaking up both organizations.
For years they worked side by side, more or less in harmony. During the intifada they even began cooperating militarily and claimed joint responsibility for many attacks in Gaza. But Hamad is now hinting that Islamic Jihad wants to take Hamas' place, and is citing Iraq as an example.
"Wherever Jihad fighters fought, Muslims, meaning Sunni Muslims like Hamas showed up, and then the hypocritical Sh'iites came and sat down on the chairs that became available. This is an American, Zionist, Arab Shiite plot," he said.
Hamad was saying that Islamic Jihad is financed and run by Hezbollah and Iran, the Shiite heretics according to Sunni Islam. He said the Islamic Jihad has no right to operate in the Palestinian street on ideological grounds, and pointed out that despite the Hamas' hegemony in the street, the Jihad had managed to take over "the agenda" and the media by putting its people in key jobs in the press. He called for a "media jihad," meaning getting into important Arab and Palestinian media outlets.
Hamad's talk forced an apology from senior Hamas activists to the Arab press working in Gaza, whom Hamad had accused of serving the Jihad and the Palestinian Authority.
Hamad's speech on tape opens a rare window into the balance of power inside the Gaza Strip, including Hamas relations with the PA and how it motivates its activists in the street. But more than anything, the tape shows how frustrated Hamas is that despite being by far a larger organization than Islamic Jihad, in the press, at least, they are presented as equally important.
Hamad opened his lecture with "the media is the decisive weapon," and then delivered a series of examples from the life of Mohammed the Prophet and how his sermons to his warriors determined battles. But the Hamad speech quickly turned to the subject of the Islamic Jihad.
"We outnumber them, we have many more mosques, and much more commitment, but they are ahead of us in the satellite TV stations, and their Web sites are much bigger than the group itself. They are stealing attacks from Hamas, exaggerate the number of their killed, and inflate the numbers of their street demonstrations as if they are a domestic group, even though they are supported by Hezbollah. The media has turned them into the equals of the Muslim Brotherhood," Hamad complains in the tape.
He labels specific Palestinian reporters working in Gaza, saying an Al Jazeera correspondent in Gaza, Wa'al Dahduah, is a Jihad supporter, as is Imad Eid, the Hezbollah TV correspondent in Gaza. Hamad said that Walid Alomri, the senior Al Jazeera correspondent in the territories, is a Fatah man "with a burning hatred for Hamas, and he reports tendentiously in favor of the PA."
Hamad says on tape that Hamas man Faiz Abu Smala works for the BBC, "and that way he writes the story in favor of the Islam and Muslims."
Beyond the issue of the media, there is an ideological abyss between Hamas and Islamic Jihad. While Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, believes in social activity to educate society and create an Islamic rule, the Islamic Jihad has always believed in a violent campaign to take over power centers, and its social activities were marginal. But in the last year the Islamic Jihad changed direction and began undertaking social activities in Gaza.
Three months ago, armed Islamic Jihad men took over Al Qassam mosque, a Hamas stronghold, by force, and the takeover led to armed clashes between men from both groups. Thus, Hamad complains in the tape, "the Islamic Jihad ignited our spirit of resistance when it took away our mosque, and there is a danger they will try to take over others."
| BBcode: | |
| Hide post links |
-
Brains
- Posts: 549
- Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:14 am
waw raum. where do you have all these stories from?! "honest reporting" by coincidence? the site which "ensures Israel is represented fairly and accurately HonestReporting monitors the media, exposes cases of bias, promotes balance, and effects change through education and action." Why does it do so? Because "the media sways public opinion, which directly affects foreign policy towards Israel and in turn the lives of her citizens."
If it were such "honest reporting", shouldn't it at least try to also make sure the palestinians are represented "fairly and accurately"? you know, just to make it fair and balanced.
hey... they give awards as well and I happen to be a visionary (something you did not know)! here goes my predictions for the years to come: the BBC - together with Reuters - will get top awards for "dishonest reporting" for the year 2006, 2007, 2008 AND 2009 (after which "honest reporting" is not used anymore because it tends to get boring).
good aye?
SERIOUSLY: if you want to discuss at least try to use credible sources. you are nothing but proving that you have a biased view. not objective. pro-israel - however needs be. i asked you already: are you?
If it were such "honest reporting", shouldn't it at least try to also make sure the palestinians are represented "fairly and accurately"? you know, just to make it fair and balanced.
hey... they give awards as well and I happen to be a visionary (something you did not know)! here goes my predictions for the years to come: the BBC - together with Reuters - will get top awards for "dishonest reporting" for the year 2006, 2007, 2008 AND 2009 (after which "honest reporting" is not used anymore because it tends to get boring).
good aye?
SERIOUSLY: if you want to discuss at least try to use credible sources. you are nothing but proving that you have a biased view. not objective. pro-israel - however needs be. i asked you already: are you?
| BBcode: | |
| Hide post links |
-
raum
- Posts: 3944
- Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:51 am
*yawn* are you actually going to disprove my information and comments?
or just to try to one up them to show how MORE Palestine gets a raw deal, and dispute that they came from sources that don't share the same bias as you and your precious beeb.
C'mon Brains: Show me where the website full of Israeli videoclips encouraging the kids for killing palestinians. surely you can find at least ONE. what about the clips of the IDF soldiers holding babies while shelling Gaza?
Show me where the BBC denies that their senior operative in Palestine is not present making statements of support, as a member of HAMAS. Not even the BBC could come up with something saying more than "well, he was at a private meeting. we didn't think anyone would be recording him. he really is impartial once you get to know him."
Brains the fact is you just slam my sources (which are the most comprehensive LOCAL media on the subjects). Despite what you may think J-post and Y-net are well known for slamming TRUE Israeli attacks on Palestine, and reporting Palestinian accusations and contrary statements to IDF reports.
do your homework before you label me.
http://middle-east-info.org/gateway/pal ... rorregime/
of let me guess, that Poster from the political campaigning of HAMAS is a forgery?
what about my friend's prayer rug from palestine with a special place on the rug for a kalishnikov?
(he has it on his wall, he is is a weird cat, but a well-travelled cat.)
How many people do you know who have been to Palestine? How many papers do you read that come out of Jerusalem or the Middle East in General?
--------------
BY THE WAY, THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A BIAS AND FABRICATING ARTICLES
Here's a transcript of John Bell's BBC session where he tells the story of the poor Palestinian drafted into the IDF and forced to shoot Palestinian children or be shot himself:
[spoil:c85cfe01ca]Thought for the Day, 10 February 2005 John Bell
Two years ago, in a Lebanese restaurant in Vancouver, I talked to a
waiter called Adam who was an Arab Israeli.
That means that he was of Palestinian Muslim stock, born in the
state of Israel and, like his Jewish compatriots, he had been
conscripted into the Israeli Army.
There he had distinguished himself as a good soldier and was made a
corporal. He was also imprisoned for refusing to shoot unarmed
schoolchildren. And one day, when off-duty, he saved many lives by
killing a suicide bomber who entered the bus on which he was
travelling.
At the end of our conversation, he asked 'How old do you think I
am?' I was sure he was 29, but I said 27 to flatter him. 'No,' he
said, 'I am only 19. But this is what happens when you have been
through what I have been through.
It will not be in his singular life that the memory and the pain of
the conflict he has witnessed will die. His stories will be recounted
by his children and by his children's children. And with each
retelling some animosity will surface. For Adam's history will be in
their genes.
I say this today when many people will rightly be celebrating the
accord between Palestine and Israel agreed to on Tuesday.
For as with any peace agreement or truce, it is not so much that the
devil is in the detail. The devil, if we must use that term, is in
memories of hurt and feelings of revenge which will not be requited.
What is sectarianism in Northern Ireland, what is white-settler
animosity in Wales, what is racism in British cities if not the
expression of people on whose memories is etched real and false
information about an enemy which created mayhem in the past and
might do so again in the future?
The sins of the fathers.... as an old scripture says... are visited
on the children.
And in Israel-Palestine where the pain of history is physically
manifest in everything from a ruined temple to a half-built wall, a
handshake and two signatures can never be enough.
There is no quick fix, no kiss and make up opportunity. Dealing with
the genetic and psychological legacies of a brutal past is a spiritual thing.
It cannot be enforced by agreement, predicted by science, or enabled
by logic.
It needs imagination, sensitivity, humility and all the virtues
which cannot be gained through reading or conjecture. And maybe, in
place of the wild war music it needs the kind of mantra which Desmond
Tutu so winsomely taught his hurting compatriots:
Goodness is stronger than evil. Love is stronger than hate. Light is stronger than darkness. Life is stronger than death.
copyright 2005 BBC[/spoil:c85cfe01ca]
Problem: Israel doesn't actually draft Arabs. never has, never will. wouldn't make sense to. Arabs had to fight for the right to even join... and the very math of the poor Arab of "Palestinian Stock" is a impossiblity.
http://www.eurabiantimes.com/archives/2 ... nonapo.php
http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html
---------------
or let me guess, the people who are monitoring the BBC are biased, too?
Well, interesting enough, the BBC bias is so well known they had to hire a damage control man.
Ever hear of Malcolm Balen? What did he get promoted to, again?
--
You act like I don't want to be biased,.. I have said my bias is based on MY SELF. It is simple. Hamas follows sharia, and would not suffer me to live. Israel allows religious freedom, which I regard as the most basic unalienable right of all humans. I am not biased towards Jews, per se. r against Muslims. but PLAIN AND SIMPLE - HISTORY AND LOGIC SAY THIS IS ABOUT JEWS AND ARABS FIGHTING OVER A PLACE THAT HAS IS ONLY RECOGNIZED BY AN ORIGINAL JEWISH NAME.
To be honest, I am biased towards tolerance; especially RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE. I have said TIME AND AGAIN THE WARFARE IS SENSLESS. CUT OFF THEIR FUEL AND ELECTRICITY> THEY WILL COME TO TERMS WITH THEIR VERY CAPITALIST NATURE. PALESTINE WILL starve to death and IMPORT TV's TO WATCH THE WORLD CUP... at least according to the Evil Jewish Media ™.
or just to try to one up them to show how MORE Palestine gets a raw deal, and dispute that they came from sources that don't share the same bias as you and your precious beeb.
C'mon Brains: Show me where the website full of Israeli videoclips encouraging the kids for killing palestinians. surely you can find at least ONE. what about the clips of the IDF soldiers holding babies while shelling Gaza?
Show me where the BBC denies that their senior operative in Palestine is not present making statements of support, as a member of HAMAS. Not even the BBC could come up with something saying more than "well, he was at a private meeting. we didn't think anyone would be recording him. he really is impartial once you get to know him."
Brains the fact is you just slam my sources (which are the most comprehensive LOCAL media on the subjects). Despite what you may think J-post and Y-net are well known for slamming TRUE Israeli attacks on Palestine, and reporting Palestinian accusations and contrary statements to IDF reports.
do your homework before you label me.
http://middle-east-info.org/gateway/pal ... rorregime/
of let me guess, that Poster from the political campaigning of HAMAS is a forgery?
what about my friend's prayer rug from palestine with a special place on the rug for a kalishnikov?
(he has it on his wall, he is is a weird cat, but a well-travelled cat.)
How many people do you know who have been to Palestine? How many papers do you read that come out of Jerusalem or the Middle East in General?
--------------
BY THE WAY, THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A BIAS AND FABRICATING ARTICLES
Here's a transcript of John Bell's BBC session where he tells the story of the poor Palestinian drafted into the IDF and forced to shoot Palestinian children or be shot himself:
[spoil:c85cfe01ca]Thought for the Day, 10 February 2005 John Bell
Two years ago, in a Lebanese restaurant in Vancouver, I talked to a
waiter called Adam who was an Arab Israeli.
That means that he was of Palestinian Muslim stock, born in the
state of Israel and, like his Jewish compatriots, he had been
conscripted into the Israeli Army.
There he had distinguished himself as a good soldier and was made a
corporal. He was also imprisoned for refusing to shoot unarmed
schoolchildren. And one day, when off-duty, he saved many lives by
killing a suicide bomber who entered the bus on which he was
travelling.
At the end of our conversation, he asked 'How old do you think I
am?' I was sure he was 29, but I said 27 to flatter him. 'No,' he
said, 'I am only 19. But this is what happens when you have been
through what I have been through.
It will not be in his singular life that the memory and the pain of
the conflict he has witnessed will die. His stories will be recounted
by his children and by his children's children. And with each
retelling some animosity will surface. For Adam's history will be in
their genes.
I say this today when many people will rightly be celebrating the
accord between Palestine and Israel agreed to on Tuesday.
For as with any peace agreement or truce, it is not so much that the
devil is in the detail. The devil, if we must use that term, is in
memories of hurt and feelings of revenge which will not be requited.
What is sectarianism in Northern Ireland, what is white-settler
animosity in Wales, what is racism in British cities if not the
expression of people on whose memories is etched real and false
information about an enemy which created mayhem in the past and
might do so again in the future?
The sins of the fathers.... as an old scripture says... are visited
on the children.
And in Israel-Palestine where the pain of history is physically
manifest in everything from a ruined temple to a half-built wall, a
handshake and two signatures can never be enough.
There is no quick fix, no kiss and make up opportunity. Dealing with
the genetic and psychological legacies of a brutal past is a spiritual thing.
It cannot be enforced by agreement, predicted by science, or enabled
by logic.
It needs imagination, sensitivity, humility and all the virtues
which cannot be gained through reading or conjecture. And maybe, in
place of the wild war music it needs the kind of mantra which Desmond
Tutu so winsomely taught his hurting compatriots:
Goodness is stronger than evil. Love is stronger than hate. Light is stronger than darkness. Life is stronger than death.
copyright 2005 BBC[/spoil:c85cfe01ca]
Problem: Israel doesn't actually draft Arabs. never has, never will. wouldn't make sense to. Arabs had to fight for the right to even join... and the very math of the poor Arab of "Palestinian Stock" is a impossiblity.
http://www.eurabiantimes.com/archives/2 ... nonapo.php
http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html
---------------
or let me guess, the people who are monitoring the BBC are biased, too?
Well, interesting enough, the BBC bias is so well known they had to hire a damage control man.
Ever hear of Malcolm Balen? What did he get promoted to, again?
--
You act like I don't want to be biased,.. I have said my bias is based on MY SELF. It is simple. Hamas follows sharia, and would not suffer me to live. Israel allows religious freedom, which I regard as the most basic unalienable right of all humans. I am not biased towards Jews, per se. r against Muslims. but PLAIN AND SIMPLE - HISTORY AND LOGIC SAY THIS IS ABOUT JEWS AND ARABS FIGHTING OVER A PLACE THAT HAS IS ONLY RECOGNIZED BY AN ORIGINAL JEWISH NAME.
To be honest, I am biased towards tolerance; especially RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE. I have said TIME AND AGAIN THE WARFARE IS SENSLESS. CUT OFF THEIR FUEL AND ELECTRICITY> THEY WILL COME TO TERMS WITH THEIR VERY CAPITALIST NATURE. PALESTINE WILL starve to death and IMPORT TV's TO WATCH THE WORLD CUP... at least according to the Evil Jewish Media ™.
| BBcode: | |
| Hide post links |
-
Brains
- Posts: 549
- Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:14 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4276717.stm
unfortunate, but corrected. and it happens to the best. never read a newspaper with a printed correction "yesterday we mentioned that company xy had financial trouble, while it should have been xz"? this is what the bbc did no?
unfortunate, but corrected. and it happens to the best. never read a newspaper with a printed correction "yesterday we mentioned that company xy had financial trouble, while it should have been xz"? this is what the bbc did no?
| BBcode: | |
| Hide post links |
-
raum
- Posts: 3944
- Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:51 am
so bias is a reason to slam a media source,
but false testimony is ok? if you apologize 8 days later, in a different media entirely.
what an AMAZING defense on behalf of the BBC.
"the BRITISH JEWISH community informed us our expose' is full of shit. we looked it up, and hmm, seems we can't find any evidence about this story. But, she he wasn't really drafted, per se. and he totally messed up his age. it happens, ya know?>"
sure, that doesn't sound bias:
how about:
Upon recieving commentary questioning the nature of IDF military service and the pre-requisites for the rank of IDF Corporal discussed in the show, we decided to inquire into the records of service for the person who gave his now suspect testimony of being drafted into the IDF and forced to kill Palestinian children. They had no records of relevance, nor a service record for the individual in question. We have no reason to believe that testimony, and regret any tension we inadverdantly caused with this false testimony. We thank the readers who brought this to our attention and apologize to any offended by the suspect testimony, the comments thereon, or the sentiments it was intended to convey, and commit ourself to due vigilance in verifying testimony before it is aired or promoted, even in conjecture, about such a human tragedy as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
THAT's the APOLOGY they SHOULD HAVE MADE.
but false testimony is ok? if you apologize 8 days later, in a different media entirely.
what an AMAZING defense on behalf of the BBC.
"the BRITISH JEWISH community informed us our expose' is full of shit. we looked it up, and hmm, seems we can't find any evidence about this story. But, she he wasn't really drafted, per se. and he totally messed up his age. it happens, ya know?>"
sure, that doesn't sound bias:
how about:
Upon recieving commentary questioning the nature of IDF military service and the pre-requisites for the rank of IDF Corporal discussed in the show, we decided to inquire into the records of service for the person who gave his now suspect testimony of being drafted into the IDF and forced to kill Palestinian children. They had no records of relevance, nor a service record for the individual in question. We have no reason to believe that testimony, and regret any tension we inadverdantly caused with this false testimony. We thank the readers who brought this to our attention and apologize to any offended by the suspect testimony, the comments thereon, or the sentiments it was intended to convey, and commit ourself to due vigilance in verifying testimony before it is aired or promoted, even in conjecture, about such a human tragedy as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
THAT's the APOLOGY they SHOULD HAVE MADE.
| BBcode: | |
| Hide post links |