Tsunami...

[Aemeth]

QUOTE(AYHJA)

Please tell me why is that not enough..



I never said it wasnt enough..it is always enough if you are caring as much as possible.

Do you not agree that if you lost someone close to you, your heart would be more devastated than if you heard on the news some lady died in a car wreck last night..?

Sure, you feel horrible for both, but since you have invested more of yourself in those close to you, the reason you feel more pain for them is natural..

It is selfishness though, for they are all the same in the eyes of He who made them..

I have said this before, but I dont think I am saying it right apparently, because I apparently dont know shit cuz I am younger. BUT, I am the realist person I have ever met, and there is some truth in this statement whether its plain to see or not..

[trashtalkr]

But you said is that we really don't care about them. We really don't care about what happened because it didn't happen to us. That's not true.

I know I haven't been in this thread for awhile so I may be way off...I'll go back to re-read everything

[AYHJA]

You answered one question, but failed to answer another...What is the point of this statement:

QUOTE(DeEje)Do you not agree that if you lost someone close to you, your heart would be more devastated than if you heard on the news some lady died in a car wreck last night..?

Yes, you are right about that, but that's not what empathizing with the tsunami victims was about...We were not comparing personal loss to that ordeal, because THERE IS NO COMPARISON...Beyond that, what does that have to do with anything..? What does the realization of a tragedy have to do with heartfelt repsonse to a tragedy..? What is selfish about that..? That's what I don't understand, and I wouldn't say you don't know shit because of your age, but ask yourself if you're smarter today than you were yesterday, and you'll get my drift...

It is true, that I wouldn't feel the same amount of personal pain...But like I pointed out to you in another thread, I wasn't given that choice...

Answer this...

Would it not be more appropriate to measure selfishness if I were given a choice to experience 1 single, devastating personal loss to the loss of 150,000 people, their economy, and culture to boot..?

QUOTE(DeEje)It is selfishness though, for they are all the same in the eyes of He who made them..

Do you really believe that..? Great flood...The Exodus...Sodom and Gomorrah...All of those events tell you that God loves everyone equally..?

We were made in his image...

[trashtalkr]

I agree...we were made in God's image, but it isn't selfish for us. How can it be selfisness when we care? Everyone has this in-bred feeling to help man in general. That's being human. We aren't selfish when we aren't the ones who are being hurt.

[RIMFIRE]

QUOTEI am the realist person I have ever met, and there is some truth in this statement whether its plain to see or not..


Yes there is truth, however, there is no point. This whole thread can be summed up in two words: "No Shit".

[Aemeth]

Rim- Have you read the OG tsumami thread?

There was no point to this, jus I ain't gonna put up with a bunch of people acting like they were devastated by the event when it is not possible to be given our scenario..

TT- I really arent following you at all..last time I checked, in-bred meant breeding within your own kind..maybe I misread it or summn..

Back to A- And yes, it is true God judges everyone the same..Those examples you gave are irrelevant, for they would only apply if "the lady in the wreck" was a devilish miscreant..

And concerning your "consider this", that is relating the incident back to before it happened, which is a completely different ballgame..

More later, got a bball game..

[trashtalkr]

To me...I meant inherent. Does that make more sense?

QUOTE jus I ain't gonna put up with a bunch of people acting like they were devastated by the event when it is not possible to be given our scenario..

This is the point we're trying to get across. Just because we weren't directly affected doesn't mean that we don't care. I care about alot of things that don't directly affect me. That's part of being human

[AYHJA]

Holy Shit Man...Please tell me why you INSIST on saying this, and what proof can you offer up to explain it:

QUOTE(DeEje)I ain't gonna put up with a bunch of people acting like they were devastated by the event when it is not possible to be given our scenario..

Tell me facts, figures, examples of why this is true...You haven't done that, yet, you keep saying it, wondering why everyone is looking at you cockeyed...Sir, that statement has NO MERIT what so ever...I'm going to go over more points, but PLEASE explain the above quote, as a favor to me...Tell me what gave you the notion of devastation...Who was acting like they were devastated..? Point to threads, quote other people...TELL US why you keep saying that..! LoL...Good God man...

Now...You're misreading things...I think...

QUOTE(DeEje)Back to A- And yes, it is true God judges everyone the same..Those examples you gave are irrelevant, for they would only apply if \"the lady in the wreck\" was a devilish miscreant..

Who said anything about judging..? You were saying everyone is the same in the eyes of The Creator...Has nothing at all to do with my reply to that...You missed it completely...Go back and check me out on that...

[Aemeth]

God got rid of the people of Sodom, etc, because they were involved in so much evil. Saying that about the crash lady doesnt really apply..

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE AS DEVASTATED AS YOU THINK YOU ARE. IF EVERYONE YOU KNEW DIED IN TRAGEDY, ALL OF US WOULD BE AT MUCH MORE OF AN EMOTIONAL LOSS THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

If that is honestly wrong, then pray for me, for if I lost everything and everyone I knew, I would be a total wreck..

Yet those people barely amount to a fraction of those lost in the horrible rush of frigid h2o, and while I feel very sad, i am not affected as much because it does not apply to me directly..I hate it, but it is true..

[trashtalkr]

What you're were saying though is that we shouldn't pretend like we care at all (at least that's the impretion I got). That's the wrong attitude to have. That's messed up and we've already said why....you just won't buy it....