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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:21 pm
by raum
typically, the hopkins method of polling has a very unstable statistical variance of 10-130%

for one last year, by the same method of the poll, many people reported their neighbors as dead, when it was discovered they moved. Others admitted they were lying and had hoped that the people coming to take the poll would give them money or other compensation for "their lost family members." Others simply expressed nothing but disgust for the whole thing, and simply refused to answer or shouted insults or conflicting numbers.

sadly, we may never know at what cost this action comes, and to be honest the only way to get more certain numbers are methods that most people can't stomach, as they bring you intimately in touch with the dead. but I know that thousands and thousands of Iraqis are doing their best to make their country a thing to be proud of and defeat the extremists who seek to make their country part of a terrorist regime.

no doubt many died, but even worse, they highlight the 655000 number, but fail to mention 69+% of those reported were at the hands of the militant jihadists. That means over 450,000 of them were at the hands of the enemy we are trying to defeat, and others want us to retreat from.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:00 pm
by Brains
QUOTE(Buffmaster @ Oct 12 2006, 09:40 AM) Here's your linky
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that is your "debunking" of that figure?!?

so. you believe dubya over a university study, just because the former says "that is just not credible". LOL

look... apparently Bush has "in the past has suggested 30,000 civilian deaths in Iraq". THAT figure is simply incorrect. We are at an average of 100 deaths a day now. In ONE year that surpasses that 30.000 figure Bush apparently believes in.

but well. "655.000" looks quite incredible to me as well. raum might have hinted at how this study may be flawed.

but your answer, bm, "here's your linky" is the best of the week. LOL!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:44 pm
by x3n
That figure is probably inaccurate. Bush's 30,000 is unlikely as well with 3 years into this. Sorry to be a hippie but regardless of the death toll, I say it's high time that new counterinsurgency strategy gets rollin.