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highlife, is what you say about drug dealers is true, couldn't the same be said for say...Casinos..? What about tobacco companies...Aren't you chaps forgetting something in all of this..?
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If this is a legally established college fund, I'd take it when chosen.
If this man is just "being nice" but not legit, I would not. Cause that is really just paying forward for "special favors" that may damage my character and opportunity far more than any formal education may help.
As to what the man did to earn the money to set up my college fund, that speaks of HIS legacy not MINE.
How many kids have gone to school from the gains of wcked deeds? Why should this guy be any different.
If this man is just "being nice" but not legit, I would not. Cause that is really just paying forward for "special favors" that may damage my character and opportunity far more than any formal education may help.
As to what the man did to earn the money to set up my college fund, that speaks of HIS legacy not MINE.
How many kids have gone to school from the gains of wcked deeds? Why should this guy be any different.
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ayhja....highlife, is what you say about drug dealers is true, couldn't the same be said for say...Casinos..? What about tobacco companies
me....It would help if i knew what your point was. Are you saying how some one gets money is OK as long as they do some thing good with it.? Are you saying tobacco, heroen and crack are all pretty much the same so whats the big deal ? Or are you saying like raum is that excepting the money says nothing about who you are and has no effect on your charecter
ayhja....Aren't you chaps forgetting something in all of this..?
me... and ?
me....It would help if i knew what your point was. Are you saying how some one gets money is OK as long as they do some thing good with it.? Are you saying tobacco, heroen and crack are all pretty much the same so whats the big deal ? Or are you saying like raum is that excepting the money says nothing about who you are and has no effect on your charecter
ayhja....Aren't you chaps forgetting something in all of this..?
me... and ?
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highlife, you said:
The drug dealer is helping to destroy many lives every day as we speak.
I am talking about accountability...Unless drug dealers are kicking down your door and forcing you to smoke a nickle bag of weed, how are they destroying lives..? You make a conscious choice to do something, and someone else gets the blame..? I don't understand that...You sign up for the military, you go off to war and get killed, is the military destroying lives..?
But yes, this is a legitimate, on paper scholarship...Shit, the drug dealer could be doing it for tax purposes, who knows, either way its there...
How is this different than a corrupt company, we've seen quite a few of them in recent years, starting a scholarship..? The difference is perception...You think of drug dealers and you see Nino Brown, someone says Enron, and you're thinking company...Are they really that different..? Lets stop calling them curtains when you know they're shit shades...
The drug dealer is helping to destroy many lives every day as we speak.
I am talking about accountability...Unless drug dealers are kicking down your door and forcing you to smoke a nickle bag of weed, how are they destroying lives..? You make a conscious choice to do something, and someone else gets the blame..? I don't understand that...You sign up for the military, you go off to war and get killed, is the military destroying lives..?
But yes, this is a legitimate, on paper scholarship...Shit, the drug dealer could be doing it for tax purposes, who knows, either way its there...
How is this different than a corrupt company, we've seen quite a few of them in recent years, starting a scholarship..? The difference is perception...You think of drug dealers and you see Nino Brown, someone says Enron, and you're thinking company...Are they really that different..? Lets stop calling them curtains when you know they're shit shades...
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I agree with you a....
The individual who is giving the money to help others is fine and yes selling drugs may not be a respectable job or career but that individual is selling a product to people who are making a decision and not being forced to take the drugs....
But the individual who is sitting on that fatt stack is in my eyes wrong for several reasons. One that money was made with peoples lives who didnt have an option and were forced to work for piss and scraps. its all about options and choices.
You can condem the drug dealer all you want but he/she isn't forcing people to use there product. The slaves didn't have a choice so the money is bloody as hell and probably comes with a heavy price.
The individual who is giving the money to help others is fine and yes selling drugs may not be a respectable job or career but that individual is selling a product to people who are making a decision and not being forced to take the drugs....
But the individual who is sitting on that fatt stack is in my eyes wrong for several reasons. One that money was made with peoples lives who didnt have an option and were forced to work for piss and scraps. its all about options and choices.
You can condem the drug dealer all you want but he/she isn't forcing people to use there product. The slaves didn't have a choice so the money is bloody as hell and probably comes with a heavy price.
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AYHJA.....I am talking about accountability...Unless drug dealers are kicking down your door and forcing you to smoke a nickel bag of weed, how are they destroying lives..? You make a conscious choice to do something, and someone else gets the blame..?
me.....The producer ,transporter, dealer and addict are all part of the problem. Each needs the other. That¢‚¬„¢s why i said " the drug dealer is [ helping ] to destroy many lives".I talked about the drug dealer because he is the one giving away the scholarship not because i think hes the only one to blame for drugs in society.
AYHJA......You sign up for the military, you go off to war and get killed, is the military destroying lives..?
me........Dont forget fire chiefs because they send guys into burning buildings
AYHJA........someone says Enron, and you're thinking company...Are they really that different..?
me..Some times they do even more damage but unless its real obvious , like Enron, you¢‚¬„¢re never gonna know exactly what damage there doing. You¢‚¬„¢re responsible for stuff you know about. A notorious drug dealer as you wrote leaves no dought and you¢‚¬„¢re aware of the damage being done. Its a judgment call . Bill O Rielly refuses to shop at a store if they say happy holidays instead of merry christmas.
I¢‚¬„¢m headin out for a mini vacation so have a good week .How much you want to bet the first good snow will happen the day im coming back............Peace
me.....The producer ,transporter, dealer and addict are all part of the problem. Each needs the other. That¢‚¬„¢s why i said " the drug dealer is [ helping ] to destroy many lives".I talked about the drug dealer because he is the one giving away the scholarship not because i think hes the only one to blame for drugs in society.
AYHJA......You sign up for the military, you go off to war and get killed, is the military destroying lives..?
me........Dont forget fire chiefs because they send guys into burning buildings
AYHJA........someone says Enron, and you're thinking company...Are they really that different..?
me..Some times they do even more damage but unless its real obvious , like Enron, you¢‚¬„¢re never gonna know exactly what damage there doing. You¢‚¬„¢re responsible for stuff you know about. A notorious drug dealer as you wrote leaves no dought and you¢‚¬„¢re aware of the damage being done. Its a judgment call . Bill O Rielly refuses to shop at a store if they say happy holidays instead of merry christmas.
I¢‚¬„¢m headin out for a mini vacation so have a good week .How much you want to bet the first good snow will happen the day im coming back............Peace
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QUOTEYou¢‚¬„¢re responsible for stuff you know about.
All I know is not every drug dealer sets up a legit college fund to help kids get the education they need to not take the route in life he did.
I personally think that is pretty cool, and would love to hear more about why the guy set it up. AYHJA can you find out the name of the college fund, so we can get the literature on it, and address this with a little more knowledge and hopefully less condemnation of the benefactor, simply because he is a "drug dealer." To me, people don't fit into little boxes like this description. I have known a "drug dealer" or two, and a few pimps and more than my share of prostitutes. These are real people, not just people who walk around with evil smiles on their inner child because society crumbles wherever they go.
and if you think the money is only as good as where it came from, and not what you can do with it, then you will never be able to succeed in a capitalist model. that is the thing about capitalism... money is supposed to be free of the import of the consumer the minute it is exchanged for goods and services.
All I know is not every drug dealer sets up a legit college fund to help kids get the education they need to not take the route in life he did.
I personally think that is pretty cool, and would love to hear more about why the guy set it up. AYHJA can you find out the name of the college fund, so we can get the literature on it, and address this with a little more knowledge and hopefully less condemnation of the benefactor, simply because he is a "drug dealer." To me, people don't fit into little boxes like this description. I have known a "drug dealer" or two, and a few pimps and more than my share of prostitutes. These are real people, not just people who walk around with evil smiles on their inner child because society crumbles wherever they go.
and if you think the money is only as good as where it came from, and not what you can do with it, then you will never be able to succeed in a capitalist model. that is the thing about capitalism... money is supposed to be free of the import of the consumer the minute it is exchanged for goods and services.
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"and if you think the money is only as good as where it came from, and not what you can do with it, then you will never be able to succeed"
Beautifully said....
Beautifully said....
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Let's rewrite the Charles Dicken's story "A Christmas Carol" to where little Timmy's mom and daddy refuse to let Scrooge buy them a holiday feast, and pay for little Timmy's operation:
Scrooge decides he was just delusional, and gets therapy to spend out his final days medicated from the weight of his own actions. His life loses meaning, and his ensuing bad business decisions leave him miserable and penniless. His fortune is siezed by the bank, and he is found frozen to death Christmas morning, not three years after his vision. The person who finds him steals his watch.
The bank financier uses the money to refinance mortgages on the Scrooge estate. He uses the accrued interest to fund his own developing cocaine "snuff" habit and to buy a small title for his own security. He plans to take his fiancee to show her the wonderful suprise, which leads to an automobile accident that kills him, his fiancee, and a young man who would have grown up to be a prominent surgeon who saves thousands in the German bombing of England, including John Lennon's father.
Timmy's daddy goes broke trying to keep his crippled son alive, and gets a "backroom" doctor to try and give him the operation he desperately needs. Timmy dies of a horrific infection and his dad is imprisoned for killing the doctor in a drunken rage a week after Timmy's funeral. Timmy's father lives out his days the subject of a study employing electroshock therapy as a means of prompting criminal rehabilitation. He is most often seen those last days, laying on his stomach slack-jawed, drooling on the the cold stone floor of his cell, and bubbling out the words "god bless us everyone..." to no one in particular.
So, Timmy's mother is left to fend for herself, as a prostitute in an Opium house, until she overdoses de to the onset of blindness. But with her advanced stages of syphillis, she is far better off dying the peaceful death of the Dragon Bite than dissolving into the blind madness of the Disease of Kings.
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Scrooge decides he was just delusional, and gets therapy to spend out his final days medicated from the weight of his own actions. His life loses meaning, and his ensuing bad business decisions leave him miserable and penniless. His fortune is siezed by the bank, and he is found frozen to death Christmas morning, not three years after his vision. The person who finds him steals his watch.
The bank financier uses the money to refinance mortgages on the Scrooge estate. He uses the accrued interest to fund his own developing cocaine "snuff" habit and to buy a small title for his own security. He plans to take his fiancee to show her the wonderful suprise, which leads to an automobile accident that kills him, his fiancee, and a young man who would have grown up to be a prominent surgeon who saves thousands in the German bombing of England, including John Lennon's father.
Timmy's daddy goes broke trying to keep his crippled son alive, and gets a "backroom" doctor to try and give him the operation he desperately needs. Timmy dies of a horrific infection and his dad is imprisoned for killing the doctor in a drunken rage a week after Timmy's funeral. Timmy's father lives out his days the subject of a study employing electroshock therapy as a means of prompting criminal rehabilitation. He is most often seen those last days, laying on his stomach slack-jawed, drooling on the the cold stone floor of his cell, and bubbling out the words "god bless us everyone..." to no one in particular.
So, Timmy's mother is left to fend for herself, as a prostitute in an Opium house, until she overdoses de to the onset of blindness. But with her advanced stages of syphillis, she is far better off dying the peaceful death of the Dragon Bite than dissolving into the blind madness of the Disease of Kings.
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