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Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:13 am
by raum
My posts in VU are, in fact, views that were warranted. People encouraged those.

1. The Spear of Destiny post was in regards to the motion picture "Constantine" discussion i had with a few members of this forum. I was requested to post a bit about it, and did so. Most of these posts were recaps of personal conversations, and meant to be part of a knowledge base I WAS REQUESTED TO START.

This is the case with a good deal of those topics. I have studied alot of religious and esoteric topics that are often used (and abused) in the entertainment industry. Also most of them are DATED from at least like four revisions of this site ago about two years. I have previously mostly been active in the Entertainment category.

2. My views on sex are colored by the sacred nature of sex that make it more than using another person to get off. I have studied Tantra and Wu Tao Jing for over 12 years, and had formal training in both at least 10 years ago. I would consider a 3 minute sexual encouter to be "useless", because to me, sex is a form of meditation and reverance. I have made a personal choice that frowns upon the frantic sexual nature of the person who does not respect the power or effects of proper cultivation of the sexual force.

3. by demonstration, you failed to actually consider overt facts in articles before making debasing comments. You tend to weigh most posts I have seen with images that really convey little besides a questionable wit that is not your own. you have not refuted any contradictory statements to your own posts. I did think the correcting Buff on you not being american was clever, btw. and you have made a few quips that show me you are not thoughtless. but they are emeshed in so much vinegar there is little room for anything but refute. You might being sarcastic, if so, maybe you could put a <jk> tab, or something on your posts. Can't tell what tone of voice you are typing in, ya know?

By the way, my use of connasse is from my Cajun roots, not French. It is not gender specific, and it indicates a person who is acting like an ignorant ass, though they should know better. I do not know proper French well enough to communicate. In some circles back home, it is a term of affection or affiliation. I also use the term "ignorant" not as a general statement, but as to describe a lack of knowledge. I also use it in regards to myself with no compunction.

Also, you are aware the eXile is NOT a Russian paper. it is EXPAT satire. it is the very essence of Anti-American satire from the disillusioned expatriots in self-exile. You make no effort to mention that, and i am not sure if you are aware of it. You infer this is a russian sentiment. I will pick you up a copy next time I am at the Anarchist's Teahouse in the artists district of Philly, if you like.

I also never inferred Canadians cannot speak out against slavery. I just don't know how people can imagine the entire American Civil War was about slavery, or why so many people who speak against slavery have no knowledge of it and rely only on the notion that it was all the Confederacy was about. By reducing your reply to your images, you only demonstrate you don't get the point. MANY people in the Confederacy opposed human oppression.

I am not defending slavery. I am just quick to dispell the notion that all slaves were black, all southerners were slavers, or the Confederacy was the origin of slavery or was soley based on the rights to own human property. I do this, not to be pedantic nor to be defensive... it is to further the ideas that will fall into obscurity if they are not promoted.

Again, my point was to try and get you to speak about YOUR country and history. Did you not get that? If so, why was your response another pic of some Dixie idiot as if I would be offended?

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:17 am
by ootpoot
Übermensch wrote: OK, thanks for the reply...
You leveled a criticism @ Buff, for posting an article...Buff has over 2,000 posts here...We respect him, and I feel you should too...
Please read my response carefully -- I did NOT level any criticism at Buffmaster for posting an article!

1. Buffmaster posted an article about recession without mentioning who or where the article came from.
This can be important if someone else wants to check up on it and do a little more research.
Please notice that I give pertinent information or URLs for others to follow up on.

2. So I said: "Ooooops! Buffmaster forget to credit this crap to the Fox "News" Opinion Page writer John Lott."
NOTE: This is NOT a criticism of Buffmaster in any way.
It is a point of information for others reading the article.

3. Then I criticise the article and and point out that Fox News are criminal liars--I say nothing about Buffmaster.

4. Then Buffmaster attacks me: "Go fuck yourself, your nothing more than a East coast commie/Socialist pig claimimg that Obama will lead our country to the promise land."

This seems like a straightforward personal attack on me after I criticised an article.
I did NOT attack Buffmaster first.
He attacked me because he apparently did not like what I wrote about Fox News (I said Fox was "criminal liars").

Buffmaster INITIATED the personal attack, so I responded.

Is this understood now?

YES ________
NO _________


I'll get to raum later.

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Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:24 am
by raum
oot! That comic IS funny.

and for the record, I thought Buff was talking about me, when he was talking about someone voting for Obama.

I said Obama is the most conservative (in the truest sense of the word as regards the Federalist papers) and thus carries my vote. *No candidate is fiscally conservative, so that is really no longer a factor.* I also was on the west coast when we met.

Now, to play Zack & Wiki with the girl.

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:45 am
by AYHJA
Wow, we make significant progress..!
1. Buffmaster posted an article about recession without mentioning who or where the article came from.
This can be important if someone else wants to check up on it and do a little more research.
Please notice that I give pertinent information or URLs for others to follow up on.
Right you are..! But also, what you don't know is that Buff pretty much lives in this section...He earned his stripes here posting news...So, you saying, 'He forgot to mention....' isn't really the case...You want him to add a source to his article so you can reflect on it..? Sweet, just ask him...But from a fairly non bias POV, it looked like an attack or unfairly leveled criticism...You being here all of a week and him being a veteran here...Well, you can see how the misunderstandings are inevitable...

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:06 am
by happywonton
Oh man, that I hope that boy doesn't get charged!

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:26 am
by raum
happywonton wrote:Oh man, that I hope that boy doesn't get charged!
He is not. That is one of the reasons this thread was basically highjacked. Kid was not charged. Mom was not charged. The dead guy's family refuses to comment on it, nor have they refuted the defense claim, which is consistent with police records, and outside testimony. not really sure what their story is, except the dude's nephew owned the boarding house.

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:03 am
by ootpoot
Übermensch sez: "Wow, we make significant progress..!"
ootpoot said: "Ooooops! Buffmaster forget to credit this crap to the Fox "News" Opinion Page writer John Lott."
You seem to have a hard time acknowledging what I said or didn't say.
Only in comicbook Superman's Bizzaro World can such a statement be seen as an attack on Buffmaster.
It is laughable in the extreme!
-- Insert "Twilight Zone" theme music here --
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Another day of this gibberish and I will start translating Kafka's novels from Czech to Bullshitese from memory!

1. Why should I have to query Buffmaster (he was offline at the time) and wait
     for him to give me a URL for something I could google in 10 seconds?

2. Once I had confirmed the source as a Fox News opinion piece, I could then debunk the article immediately.
3. If I could not find the source ONLY THEN would I seek out Buffmaster!

● I had and have no need for the intervention of Buffmaster.
►You've seen the blindly viscious personal attack that Buffmaster unleashed for saying something he disagreed with.
(NOTE: my comments had nothing - naught - zero - nada to do with Buffmaster, just with Fox News).

However, it is interesting that you say Buffmaster has posted over 2,000 times and everyone knows he posts rightwing trash;
they don't care that he doesn't give credits, attributions, or even URLs.
Everyone just accepts crazy little Buffmaster as the Moonbat that can be ignored.

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HAH! Buffmaster should be licking my balls!
I seem to be the only one who cares enough to actually read his crap and critique it!
Hey Buffmaster -- Lick my balls!
You know you love it!


So I ask you again:
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why would I ask a hairtrigger wingnut
like Buffmaster any questions at all
when I can find answers, inform others
and provide critique without him?!?!?!


I have no interest in Buffmaster other than the mockery of the propaganda that he posts.
(... and the ball licking, of course.)

► I came here for amusement, discussion, and hot porno
not futile circular arguments with braindead wingnuts.
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Please drop the subject, Uber Dr. Phil, I am tired of the minutiae.
Yawn.
:zzz:

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:44 pm
by Buffmaster
ootpoot, you need to stop with this obsession with me...it's starting to creep me out!

Go Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:53 pm
by AYHJA
What I'm tired of is the picto-posts...But whatever, consider the subject dropped...
ootpoot wrote:I came here for amusement, discussion, and hot porno
Good...At least this is clear now...And again, welcome...
ootpoot wrote:not futile circular arguments with braindead wingnuts.
I can assure you that are none of those here, less they've remained silent all this time...I can only hope you haven't brought it in with you...

Re: Boy, 12, kills man who attacked his mom

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:57 pm
by happywonton
raum wrote:
happywonton wrote:Oh man, that I hope that boy doesn't get charged!
He is not. That is one of the reasons this thread was basically highjacked. Kid was not charged. Mom was not charged. The dead guy's family refuses to comment on it, nor have they refuted the defense claim, which is consistent with police records, and outside testimony. not really sure what their story is, except the dude's nephew owned the boarding house.
Yeah I read that on the earlier post. I just tried to break up all the Oot V. Peoples 2008 type of thing going on. Although I know it won't work, I wanted to jump in randomly. Oh btw, Thank You for Smoking was so good that I'm going to watch it again right now!