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QUOTEso you guys dont think that certain buildings and or cell towers can be used to send out certain frequencies, i read an article on the 'cell phone towers' really being mind control towers that can send out certain frequencies to any given spot within its path, and narrow in on a certain person and mind nad control it through the frequencies that are directed at it....

No offense, but when you read it again, doesn't it funny..? Haha, I thought it was funny as shit..! But, since this is VU, I'm going to assume that it isn't funny, and that I should wipe this smirk of my face and answer your question... -- Uh, No....But to your credit, I despise cell phones, so it could be my upper level guidin' me...

QUOTEk, so if they take away your freedom, u figure you never had it in the first place?, but don't you want it???


In my eyes, freedom is defined on a personal level...I have never felt that I wasn't free...Nobody can take anything from you, that you don't want them to have, and that's real...I don't believe that a person exists that prevents me from doing what I want to do...What has the power to do so, however, I am making attempts to familiarize myself with it...

QUOTEand you mention fear, ya, i guess the whole illuminati thing could put fear in someone....but say you aren't aware of them, ...look at the fear being installed all around the worldd....the terrorist bs, the possible attacks they keep mentioning might happen...

I have no fear of them if they are true, because anything positive can overcome anything negatie, my only fear is that humanity as a whole falls in world wide clear as day slavery to a group of power hungry monsters...

I live in the deep south, Mississippi to be exact...This is a state that isn't 10 years removed from outlawing slavery in the senate (narrowly passed by a 3-2 vote in the house) even though it was outlawed by federal law...The threat of slavery doesn't move me, for in my heart of hearts, I know I will never be one...Same for terrorism and bitch made terrorists...Cowards is all they are...

QUOTE***Show me how those things affect me and mine on a personal level****

hm, I figured a person with his name as \"God's Favorite\" would not care how it would affect him on a personal level, but how it affects humanity as a whole....

A personal level is how I interact with humanity...Every person I see, every person I make contact with...That is personal...I will shoulder, and I will shoulder well, who and what God wants me to carry...No need to try and save the world chap, when the whole world don't want to be saved...

To me, God (the one RAUM mentioned in his post) has one rule that has defied all time...

Do onto others, as you would have them do onto you...

I have modeled my life after that rule...God's Favorite is my way of saying I'm "teachers pet..."

AYHJA

DeEje asked a really good question,.. he does that alot.
He asked:
"is manipulation related to the fall of man? why is it needed, if we were created in perfection?"

I would say it is clear that the history of man is rife with manipulation, for good and ill, and certainly the mythos of the Bible is infused to the core.

but the very nature of temptation and torment is manipulation.

Yet, manipulation is just a means of attempting to control the outcome of the situation, by certain displays, voicings, and symbols. The very basis of this is magical. I would say where it comes into play so bad you need to check yourself is when you start promoting the particular outcome of a situation with no regard to anything but your immediate gratification, or when your own whim causes you lose perspective on the inherent divinity of each man and woman. OR when you begin to promote a position of undeserved power and influence over others.

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Ayhja wrote:

To me, God (the one RAUM mentioned in his post) has one rule that has defied all time...

Do onto others, as you would have them do onto you...

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The Golden Rule is Historical, in terms of the Qabala, which is a word for the †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“Oral Torah†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? passed from family to family, The Great Nasi (Nasi) of Israel named Hillel gave to the pupil Shammai this edict;†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? The Whole of the Torah which can be spoken can be composed of this one statement;. This is the Daghav Tikkun Achada Ha beni Adam-Qodmon (Golden Law which unites all the Sons of Adam).

That which is done by you unto others; that very same is done unto you.

This phrase, in the original language, is formed of seven words, 7 to punctuate the seven word praise of God:

Achad Rosh Achadoto Rosh Ichudo Temurazo Achad.

One is God; His emanations are one; All of Creation is One.

This law (Hillel†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¾¢‚¬Å¡‚¢s Golden Law) was never written in this form, and one can only formulate the exact words of the phrase by following the rules of taking the gold of the †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“King†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? and negating the ain (or negative), thus making the negative directive written statement a spoken informative positive declaration. I have never, in all my studies seen it in the original language in writing and as such I will not write it now, except in the negative and as a commandment, which is Traditional. It therefore illustrates the inadequacy of a written Torah (a book of God) without an oral Torah (a speech of God). It would translate in the manner it was written as such:

What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor;
(followed by the statement; †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“that is the whole Torah, while the rest is commentary thereon; go and learn it.)

Notice the difference. See, what Jeshua was saying (that only the scholar can understand) is exactly what Rabbi Hillel, Nasi of Israel was saying; that the supreme edict to be understood is thus:

All of humanity (and indeed all of Creation) is one Being, and that being is loved by itself when it loves, and feels its own hate when it is hated. That being is self-fed, self-sustained, and self-defined.

It was also of such supreme importance these words were spoken by Jeshua because it revealed to the knowledgeable that Jeshua had a firm grasp of the Oral Torah (Qabala) as well as the Written Torah (the †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“Old Testament†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬?), and that he taught it to select few. Thus Jesus was an Adept of the Mysteries, and he did Initiate. Some of his teachings and others are safeguarded by Intitiates, as much for their protection from his †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“worshippers†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? and †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“faithful†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? who try to strip his words of the inherent power of the Language of his mother.

Many of Jeshua†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¾¢‚¬Å¡‚¢s greatest †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“words†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? are reiterations of Masters of the Name (a word for Qabalistic Magicians), such a Hillel; a fact you are unlikely to ever find out in a †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“Christian†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? Church. Many of the statements accredited in the bible were †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“secret†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? and lose so much value when taken out of their native tongue. This is one such example; and an extreme one. Perhaps the only more extreme is the †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“Lord†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¾¢‚¬Å¡‚¢s Prayer.†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬?

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raum, you said earlier that the Bible shows that Jesus is Joshua's reincarnation...how so?

Oooh...

All of this looks like new thread material...! Thank you for the clarification of the Golden Rule...It may be worded different, but it still feels the same inside...But, before you answer Deeje's question, are we done w/the Illuminati Stuff..? Lil P didn't drop but a couple of websites on us...Maybe's he's read some good books or summn, that can provide proof of the illuminati's existence and purpose...

AYHJA

Regarding Moses and Satan.

That is absurd and I really only have to say one thing about it; though I could go much further and tell you what black Order created that *meme* that it is Satan. Give you a hint, it was an outcast from the Church of Satan; a group that states the Shem ham Phorash (72 letter name of god) is a foirmula for invoking Satan†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¾¢‚¬Å¡‚¢s power. What I have to say about that is the name is Ahih Ashr Ahih. Who cares what it means in English; no meaning is given, and †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“I am that I am†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬?is a bad translation? The name is given in Hebrew, not it†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¾¢‚¬Å¡‚¢s meaning. That is why it is referred to as †™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬†™¢¢¬‚¦‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦¢‚¬Å“Mystery of Mystery†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬? later in the Bible. The very sound of the name when properly pronounced is enough to reveal itself, and that meaning can not be shared, but by the name.

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you said:
and the jacob thing, ya, and the place he rested was peneal, which means our pineal gland and letting the light in and what not,

My reply:
Horrible mistranslation; the word is Phanuel PANUAL. "Face of God," This is the name of the angel he wrestled on his way from Laban back to resolve stealing the birthright of his older brother Esau. The Angel Phanuel is the one Jacob wrestled with, and who touched the socket of his hip, and named him "Israel", "Struggles with God." The place he rested was Beth-El, marked so by the pillar he erected. Also, this name has no specific relation to the Pineal gland, but that was a popular "fact" passed among Occult orders in Victorian Ages, and I bet some discordian group has this piece of "disinformation" in their website somewhere; making fun of the people who used to believe it, and delighted that people will. The fact is the name is pronounced 'Fawn-ooo-ehl," and has no relation to the latin root of pineal, which is pinea, Latin word for "pinecone" which was not even named such in the Jewish cosmology of the body.

Orders require huge amounts of research done into multiple systems of body energetics,.. including the Chakras, which the Pineal was called Sahasrara, meaning Thousand. The Jewish name for this was "Kether", which means "Crown." It's also known by many other names, including "Ahih." Ahih Ashr Ahih is a flormula which activates the pineal gland when properly pronounced, as YHVH eloah va-Da'at activates the Pituitary body, or Third Eye.

Hate to bust that bubble; but that pineal "fact" is a perfect example of the disinformation I seek to dispel.

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I said - **ritual of a certain degree in which one embraces the true nature of death,***

You replied: that just seems, really weird to me.....why would anyone want to embrace the true nature of death when in reality there is no death, our true self is eternal, so we never really dies, only the body does, right...why would positive higher divine forces want to embrace the death event....it don't make sense....

I comment:

The reality is there is a death, but it is never attained. Hell, you may even long for it when you find it is nowhere to be found. But it leaves you with a key to something so great you can not imagine without the experience first-hand. And SECOND.

The funny thing, is this only applies to thse advanced enough to access their true nature,.. all others, so to speak, are just kinda absorbed into the vitriolic nature of the astral energy that links us to this "existence." Sometimes "recordings" of them will permeate, but it is not a specific intelligence, per se.

NOTE: I did not say the want to embrace the Death event; but rather the "true nature of Death", which is that (if I may poetic) it is but a gown that will be left on the floor of the honeymoon suite the night after the Alchemical Marriage. Shedding it is the first step to consummating the union with the Beloved.

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