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lol Vastly different countries but universal healthcare isn't the great evil some paint it to be....and I'd rather have an accident here(Oz) or in Canada than in the states.

You do not have universal health care. You have healthcare sponsored by private and government sectors. So do we. we just have more sludge clogging the pipe due to a sense of righteous entitlement.

oh and I forgot yes the name is from Blixa B, but I got it from the cat who was named by an ex......

awesome! my cat's names are "lamp" and "shade".

trashtalkr wrote:privatized healthcare but changed to government regulated

So then, universal healthcare as described by Obama is equal to the gov't regulating healthcare..? Please clarify...

And I don't know about anyone else...But hospitals charge copious amounts of money for the simplest shit...

Ra had a fever...I took him to the emergency room...And I swear to god, this is what happened...

The doctor took his temp...Gave him a cup of liquid Tylenol, and told us he was fine and he could go home...

If I told you how much the bill was, you wouldn't believe me...3 figures for that shit...It's unreal...So, to assume that the standard of care is already at some super efficient level and we are getting what we pay for is already above and beyond me...I think they need some form of regulation for the health industry...Why it is a for profit business I have no idea...

I should add thank EVERYTHING that neither candidate has expressed a desire for a communist system of medicine or healthcare.

You do not have universal health care

Generally speaking we do and it does cost taxpayers, but some shit just costs.

blixa wrote:

You do not have universal health care

Generally speaking we do and it does cost taxpayers, but some shit just costs.

The reason I say you do not have universal healthcare is because universal healthcare doesn't allow you to seek private medical advice or services. Many countries that say they have universal healthcare, but don't... they have governement sponsored public healthcare with no co-pay insurances, and private healthcare tax subsidies in the form of deductions and exemptions. So far, both presidents have explored variations of this. CAUSE our health care is BROKE - especially by the "Co-pay" system of extortion.

Australian healthcare and Universal Healthcare are not *quite* the same. Oz has a far better system.

Kumicho wrote:

trashtalkr wrote:privatized healthcare but changed to government regulated

So then, universal healthcare as described by Obama is equal to the gov't regulating healthcare..? Please clarify...

Universal healthcare must be regulated by the government in order to keep it affordable by the people. I have nothing wrong with keeping things affordable, but this could lead to price capping on medicine or care, which would lead to worse medicine and care. Most major hospitals and drug companies are only in it for the money, which means they will make the products/services worse in order to maximize their profits if the government regulates a price cap on its services. Price capping is one of the biggest detriments to government regulated healthcare