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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:38 pm
by trashtalkr
Then it is the supernatural. Most people don't believe in the supernatural but it's real and plays apart in this world.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:40 pm
by Fapper
i got no time to answer this one yet, i'm on vacation (and i still hate quoters)

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:09 pm
by Pete
I gave the scientific answer because that is why it happened. I am a scientist so by nature that is what I believe. I don't mix my faith with my knowledge (okay but I'll hope to God I'll find a mine).


This isn't the Angel of Death flying down to rid them of their land. Just a big wave crashed through and they happened to be in the way. If no people lived there at all, that event still would have happened.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:21 pm
by trashtalkr
I feel the same way Pete (to the second thing you said)

YOu can't seperate your faith with your knowledge. They go hand in hand. Your faith becomes your worldview and that's the way you view things then. As much as you try, you can't seperate them.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:53 am
by Logic
...If God were to have did this, I think he was punishing everyone else and just used the people that got hit as pawns. Maybe he was trying to reunite people to become closer or He knew that if that were to happen then people (Americans, etc) would go over and help them.

I don't know. Just having fun with the question.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:51 pm
by deepdiver32073
That sounds pretty damned sadistic, like putting a blowtorch to a cat so that the Humane Society could take care of it! I cannot picture God doing something so horrific intentionally; that's just not the God I believe in.

The universe was created out of chaos, but that doesn't mean chaos was eliminated in creation. There is still lots of it around. The tsunami is a prime example.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:19 pm
by trashtalkr
QUOTE(deepdiver32073)The universe was created out of chaos

I think we've covered this in another thread...the universe was not created out of chaos. It was an intelligent design.

QUOTEbut that doesn't mean chaos was eliminated in creation. There is still lots of it around. The tsunami is a prime example.

Chaos is around...that's true. But do you think that the tsunami is out of chaos? Isn't it just a natural act? That wouldn't be chaos.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:27 pm
by deepdiver32073
QUOTEthe universe was not created out of chaos. It was an intelligent design.
In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep (Genesis 1:1-2) God created the universe out of a chaotic void... He made order out of disorder. Yes, it was an intelligent design out of the chaos that existed beforehand.

Nature by design is chaotic. Natural Act = chaos. It is the Divine Thread in Creation that maintains order.

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:55 pm
by Pete
I believe in Chaos Theory. But with that, there is an order to randomness. And I suppose what the order is, is the higher power.

It's like God's hands swirling water in a big bowl. The water is turbulent, rapidly moving erraticly and chaoticly. But His hands are controlling where that chaos occurs.