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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:40 am
by Aemeth
Have you heard the song?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:51 am
by capnstick
QUOTEDeEje said:
Knowledge is looked down upon in the \"ghettos\" Â
If thats where your mental is son...I won't feel bad about knockin' you the fuck out kid..
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:56 am
by Aemeth
wtf?
are you saying that is not true?
yall are crazy..
that is obvious..
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:22 am
by capnstick
I'm tryin' to calm down over here son...now your callin me crazy. I am. And I'm also tryin to keep it cool here.
Are you 18yo, caucasian, and from the 'burbs?...
Recognize that YOU, making that statement in the wrong place, time tone of voice, or otherwise silly ass look on you face, WILL in fact provoke an ASS WHOOPIN' someone will have to tell you about, because you will probably be unconscious for the majority of it.
A little bit of light...
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:48 am
by AYHJA
Paranoid..? You think it's fucked up for me to say something about you having the word nigger in your signature..? Really..? Wow...I must really need to get out the south more..!
Nah...Nothing Son, it ain't nothing like that...If I must break it down for you, then I must break it down, as I did bring it up...But, if you read these threads, then you know very little of what I say or do is without purpose...Simply put...
You are not a nigger, nigga, or any form of such, and will never be one...You will never know what it is like, and can never begin to comprehend the total meaning of that word...You will never understand what it is like to even see the shit, let alone hear it, when written by someone that can't understand it...Do a little psycho research and tell me what happens when a race of people has that word beaten into them over a couple hundred years to the point that they think that's what they are, and say it themselves...I can't even explain that, I do it myself....
No word in the history of the English language carries more dirt, hurt, opression and downright nastiness than that word...Why would you, a smart kid go around sporting it as a signature..? Don't act like I'm overreacting, you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think that word meant serious business...You don't just go around saying it do you..?
I'm not personally offended, if I was, I could have just changed the shit myself...I wanted to hear your side of the story...I wanted to know, why, even in quoting, you think you should say that word...
But, it's just a word..!
Is it..?
I can't expect you to understand what I mean though....Can't expect you to understand what it's like to see and hear that word being used by somebody that doesn't really have a clue about what it feels to be called that by somebody that will never experience its negativity...But, it's not all bad, don't get me wrong about that...You just simply won't ever, ever know what that's like...As a black person that sometimes parades as a nigga, I don't want to see you rep that, EVEN in that context...
IMO, you look stupid doing that...I'm trying to help you out...There are people of all different races here...How would you look quotin' a sportin' a signature with a slur (in case you didn't know, no matter who says it, nigga is a slur) in it about Mexicans..? What if I had a signature that said
These cracker ass white folks treatin' me like shit
Got me off the ships beatin' me with chains and whips
What kind of image does that give me..? Am I overreacting..? I don't think so...Lets be realistic...You could probably use a little lesson in sensitivity, as our convos about the tsunami may attest...Oh man young soldier, you just live on..! Maybe you'll go ahead and get grown, have a daughter...And she'll bring a black guy home...And you'll be SUPER happy...
Meanwhile, her friends at school, some of them anyway, call her things like, "Nigger Lover..."
Hahahahaha..! Now wouldn't THAT shit look good in a sig..?
Point..? Rep yourself...Be cautious of the words you use...Maintain your own image...Talk what you know...And quote yourself, it looks better...
True Stories...
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:21 am
by AYHJA
1...
About a year and a half ago a man from Meridian, Mississippi (about an hour from where I live) was forced to go to sensitivity training at his workplace, about several workers complained of his racial insensitivity...He went for about maybe a week or two I think, before bringing a shotgun to the sessions and murdering 12 people I think, all Afro American...
2...
My family owns a mortgage financing company...Around that same time, a woman comes into our office to get a home loan...She has no income other than her unemployment, which we cannot count...She had recently lost her job...
Why..?
Because she came home from her job one day and found her 15 year old son hanging from a tree in her front yard...In a town that has about 1,200 people, they never made an arrest or charged anyone with the crime...She had to come home every fucking day, and be reminded that her son was hanging from a tree just days before...The local news caught wind of it, and soon, the woman lost HER job because of the negative publicity about the incident...
This is a poor woman, about 35-40 years of age, sitting in our office crying her eyes out, because she had nowhere to turn to...
3.
Welcome to the Good ole boy system...My fiance was studying to be a licensed realty appraiser...To work in this field you need what they call "comps" short for comparables, ie, other houses similar to value to the home being appraised...She would call to get them from other appraisers, and they'd tell lies, that they didn't have any...She would have to have her boss call, often immediately after her, to get the comps, and they would give them to him, a white male, right away...
DeEje...
The year says 2005, but similar shit is going on like it was 1965, it's just harder to see...You got people that aren't racist rasing kids, but not telling them what's the deal...And then you got your parents that are still right in the mix, raising ignorant and insensitive dicks to be dumb just like they are...
Question, how the hell do you know that knowledge is looked down upon in the "ghettos"..? Which ghetto have you lived in for the last 16, 17 years that got you feelin' the oppression..?
Now, YOU callin' people crazy..?
Kid, I'm from the south side of Chicago...I've seen how both sides live, cause I've lived there...I've been in a car, seen cats jump out rip the shit out of a rig at a red light and clean that shit out before it turns green...Cops gettin' shot at...
I moved to the south and get to see bumper stickers that say, "Put them back in the fields," with confederate flags flying all around porches and you KNOW why they there...I'm not saying what I've seen is any worse or any different from what somebody else has seen...
But again, tell me what the fuck YOU look like, quotin' some shit about niggas in the hood with guns..???
Just let this one go, and TRY to understand why you're being told these things...
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:06 pm
by deepdiver32073
^^^ I couldn't put things any better, but I'll put my middle aged, middle class, white, grew up in the South in the 60s point of view. My father was (and still is) a racist, I've been around racists most of my life. I can't exactly say when or where my epiphany came, but thank God it did. It hurts me to hear "that word" now, even coming from some of my black friends. It is a word filled with hate and ignorance and can NEVER be anything else; there's too much history behind it. I know it's hard to be young in today's world - I've got two teenagers trying to make a go of it in South Carolina. But when I see kids trying to be as "ghetto" as they can be with absolutely NO idea of what it really means, it tears me up.
Deeje, I don't know what I can say to you to help you understand that some of the views you've posted are pretty damned disturbing from a variety of points of view. I really don't.
Re: A little bit of light...
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:33 am
by Aemeth
QUOTE(AYHJA)Paranoid..? You think it's fucked up for me to say something about you having the word nigger in your signature..? Really..? Wow...I must really need to get out the south more..!
Nah...Nothing Son, it ain't nothing like that...If I must break it down for you, then I must break it down, as I did bring it up...But, if you read these threads, then you know very little of what I say or do is without purpose...Simply put...
You are not a nigger, nigga, or any form of such, and will never be one...You will never know what it is like, and can never begin to comprehend the total meaning of that word...You will never understand what it is like to even see the shit, let alone hear it, when written by someone that can't understand it...Do a little psycho research and tell me what happens when a race of people has that word beaten into them over a couple hundred years to the point that they think that's what they are, and say it themselves...I can't even explain that, I do it myself....
No word in the history of the English language carries more dirt, hurt, opression and downright nastiness than that word...Why would you, a smart kid go around sporting it as a signature..? Don't act like I'm overreacting, you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think that word meant serious business...You don't just go around saying it do you..?
I'm not personally offended, if I was, I could have just changed the shit myself...I wanted to hear your side of the story...I wanted to know, why, even in quoting, you think you should say that word...
But, it's just a word..!
Is it..? Â
I can't expect you to understand what I mean though....Can't expect you to understand what it's like to see and hear that word being used by somebody that doesn't really have a clue about what it feels to be called that by somebody that will never experience its negativity...But, it's not all bad, don't get me wrong about that...You just simply won't ever, ever know what that's like...As a black person that sometimes parades as a nigga, I don't want to see you rep that, EVEN in that context...
IMO, you look stupid doing that...I'm trying to help you out...There are people of all different races here...How would you look quotin' a sportin' a signature with a slur (in case you didn't know, no matter who says it, nigga is a slur) in it about Mexicans..? What if I had a signature that said
These cracker ass white folks treatin' me like shit
Got me off the ships beatin' me with chains and whips
What kind of image does that give me..? Am I overreacting..? I don't think so...Lets be realistic...You could probably use a little lesson in sensitivity, as our convos about the tsunami may attest...Oh man young soldier, you just live on..! Maybe you'll go ahead and get grown, have a daughter...And she'll bring a black guy home...And you'll be SUPER happy...
Meanwhile, her friends at school, some of them anyway, call her things like, \"Nigger Lover...\"
Hahahahaha..! Now wouldn't THAT shit look good in a sig..?
Point..? Rep yourself...Be cautious of the words you use...Maintain your own image...Talk what you know...And quote yourself, it looks better...
For crissake, just say that then so i dont have to fuckin write a novel tryna explain it lmfao
I never use the N word
EVER
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR
But I am not going to twist someone elses lyrics so it is "not as offensive"
I understand where you are coming from, but man the rapper who says it is black, n I am QUOTING him...BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Difference..and it is not just a word, and I am white, hence I never say it. It is mad disrespectful and I am ashamed of everything my race has done in the past regarding anything of that nature..
But know..
QUOTING is a big difference man..
at least thats how i have known it to be understood..
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:36 am
by Aemeth
AYHJA, its not anything like you think man, it was just a sick intellectual bar and i aint changin it from its true form
I know racism is ridiculous, and I in no way intend to support it..
"Racism still alive, they jus be concealin' it"
-Kanye West
Its still out there man, it sucks, and I HATE the ignorance that consumes racist people..
MUCH LOVE MAN
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:38 am
by Aemeth
Wow, and I was like, how hard is the bar to understand lmao?
Had no idea it was about the word use..