If you add "at the professional level" to that, I would say that's true...If you've ever hazed, or been hazed, you can understand why it happens...I didn't say I was totally against it...You use hazing for a purpose...There is a respectable level or kind of hazing that goes on here...Guys have to come in, prove themselves, fit in nicely, etc...But you have to consider that the people above you don't give a shit about you...Dez going into camp with a business mentality is healthy...How many of these guys are we going to have to see in the news making fucked up, ridiculous, childish decisions and getting into trouble are we going to have to see before we say enough is enough..?It appears that we are arguing about different things. You two appear to be making a stance against hazing in general, saying its unnecessary and childish.
When you play high school ball, you're the man...Everyone in town knows you, you do what you want, say what you want...I wasn't a star, but I got it...That is magnified at the collegiate level usually, and if you're lucky enough to make it to the pros, you add an insane amount of money into the mix...But if you're still doing the same childish shit you did 6 years prior too, when do you grow up..?
This isn't like joining a fraternity, where you'll be a member for life...Drop enough balls and the Cowboys will cut his ass faster than my son's foreskin...That's not loyalty and honor Homez...That's why so many Vets are like "Fuck camp, fuck practice" when they get older...It's dumb, boring, monotonous...You can only make a grown man feel like a kid for so long before he's like, "Man fuck you..." And then what..?
I'd be willing to bet that homosexual acts of some form or another take place in every locker room in America...Lets say that ass pats in the shower are also part of the hazing...Or wild orgies...You follow the pad tradition, you fixing lunches, and the next thing you know, the right tackle has you in the shower explaining cock sandwiches...You let them know from the gate you're there to play ball, fuck your traditions, and nip that in the bud right away...I'm not trying to take a stance on hazing in general, all I'm saying is, regardless of how you feel about it, it's happening, and it happens everywhere.
Not really for sure that this is his point of view tho Bro...I mean, its easy to assume that...But if its possible that he's just there to be focused on football...Getting better, staying healthy, etc...Where's the room for senseless traditions..? He's got so much more responsibility, a ton of other (fresh, hot pussy anyone?) distractions, we don't know what is going on with him that he chose that...If I'm not mistaken, he got caught into some bullshit at Ok State, and it cost him some games in college...It's not a stretch that he would decide that lapses in judgment or moments when he was focused on anything but football almost cost him his career...One of my biggest pet peeves in sports is when rookies come into a league and think they're better than everyone and don't need to listen or don't need to conform to team's policies because they've been the shit everywhere they've been before this level.
Hazing in mentorship is one thing...Some nicka saying, "Yo rook, get these pads," is not going to help me build camaraderie...Its going to perpetuate the same stink feeling in me, that I'm going to want to do to the next young person that comes in...Let me hear about Roy pulling young receivers to the side explaining to them how to read coverages or a DB's mannerisms...Or why he was a non factor in the offense last year...Or why it took public ridicule for him to realize he needed to fucking tip his pizza delivery guy...
Not about getting his damn pads...
That's what's up..."I don't believe that you need to initiate anybody," Phillips said. "They need to come out and play football and be a part of the team."
Here's a football players take on it: http://snipr.com/101al7 [kevinpayne_yardbarker_com]
