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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:51 am
by B-Diddy
I disagree. I don't expect the Knicks to win a champion but a major market team like New York does not stay in the gutter for long. He'll have them in the playoffs in 2 years.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:28 am
by Lost Ghost
No amount of coaching will turn this current roster into a playoff team, maybe if they got some trades and signed some free agents, but thats not the coach's credit, its the GM. They'll never make the playoffs with their current roster, DEFINITELY not in 2 years.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:32 am
by B-Diddy
You don't need 50 wins to make the playoffs (especially in the East). New Jersey got the 8th seed and went only 42-40. The Knicks went 33-49 (with Herb Williams of all people). I'm pretty sure Larry Brown is good enough for at least a 10 game improvement.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:37 am
by Lost Ghost
No he isn't! Do you even follow the NBA?! The Nets took 8th seed last year, and this year they'll probably be 3rd, behind the Heat and Detriot. The Wizards are getting better year by year as Gilbert Arneas is evolving into a star point gaurd. The Bulls are even WAY better than the Knicks.

The East isn't wide open anymore like it used to be.

The Knicks main problems were they had no big man, so what do they do in the offseason? They trade away Kurt Thomas. Great move! The only reason the Pistons were successful, and LB alike, was because Chauncey Billups allowed himself to change his game around and become a pass-first point guard. Stephon Marbury...just..wont...do..that. So we got a shoot first pointgaurd, who is going to have quarrels with the new coach, and the only decent big man they had is now gone from their roster...the Eastern Conferrance is getting tougher by the day, and you're telling me theres going to be a 10 game improvement?!


Ain't No Fucking Way

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:44 am
by B-Diddy
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)No he isn't! Do you even follow the NBA?! The Nets took 8th seed last year, and this year they'll probably be 3rd, behind the Heat and Detriot. The Wizards are getting better year by year as Gilbert Arneas is evolving into a star point gaurd. The Bulls are even WAY better than the Knicks.  

The East isn't wide open anymore like it used to be.

The Knicks main problems were they had no big man, so what do they do in the offseason? They trade away Kurt Thomas. Great move! The only reason the Pistons were successful, and LB alike, was because Chauncey Billups allowed himself to change his game around and become a pass-first point guard. Stephon Marbury...just..wont...do..that. So we got a shoot first pointgaurd, who is going to have quarrels with the new coach, and the only decent big man they had is now gone from their roster...the Eastern Conferrance is getting tougher by the day, and you're telling me theres going to be a 10 game improvement?!


Ain't No Fucking Way

Did you not read me state that the Nets were the 8th seed last year? They went 42-40! The point I'm making is you only have to be damn near .500 to make the 8th seed.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:55 am
by AYHJA
Who was the big man in Philly when they went to the ship with a shoot first point guard and LB @ the helm..?

Right...

I don't see a 10 game turn around, especially in 2 years, that far off...

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:22 am
by Lost Ghost
Stephon Marbury is no Allen Iverson.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:41 am
by trashtalkr
Amen to that LG. Nice to have you back

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:25 am
by AYHJA
Even so, you would just be like A.I. is all over a super better player than Steph...They are similar players at the very least, and like I said, LB did it in Philly, he can do it in NYC...

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:03 am
by Lost Ghost
They are both shoot first players....only A.I. averaged 30 points a game last year to lead the league and has some MVP's.


What Steph ever done but caused problems?

And, like I said before, that happened in a time when the East was a joke, but now they're quite strong.