hip hop

Lost Ghost · #11

Thanks for the suburan opinion of hip hop as a culture.

But....back to music.

#12

I think what you hear on the radio is the decision of people who couldn't write and deliver a rap to save their lives...I keep my ear to underground, where ALL the good shit is...Some of my favorite rappers haven't had a radio friendly song since forever...

"Selling Out" to me means that you are willing to let them bleep your music so that you can make a living...They can drop that shit, and let the kids run to go get it, and I'll check out the latest KSlay joints and bump those...

Monotony is a muthafukah, but that's cause the business changed...Nobody is going into the studio no more doing a couple hundred songs like Tupac...In my eyes, nobody will ever take his place, it is an honor to even be mentioned in the same breath as him, and that goes for everybody...

Anyway...

Too many thugs, too much bling...Meh...Although, some radio stuff I like...I am listening to some song that comes on the radio by Young Geezy?..? It's some catchy shit, the beat bangs, I dig it...

#13

QUOTE(Lost Ghost)Thanks for the suburan opinion of hip hop as a culture.

But....back to music.

Ignorant fuckhead.

Just because I live in an average neighborhood doesnt mean I don't know hip-hop. I bet I know more than anyone here about its history, etc, especially with shoes..I live and breathe this stuff, even if it doesn't exist a whole lot where I stay.

Anyway..

A is right, radio don't mean shit, I hardly listen to it..But regarding Tupac....iono.....he mastered the art of ryda music, but he wasn't even close to being the best lyricist of all time..

Lost Ghost · #14

I'm ignorant....this from the same person who said....if you live in the suburbs...you'll never be as tough from someone in the hood..

shut your hypocritical ass up

#15

:boooo:

Umm yea, I would prolly know more about hip-hop if I was surrounded by it, but that is a lot less relevant than your perspective on life being formed by your day-to-day living conditions..

A black person in the hood probably has gone through a little more than me. But there's no reason that he couldn't study to become an excellent doctor because most doctors are white (which is basically what you are saying about me, except with hip-hop culture).

:stfu:

:joker:

#16

nah, Aemeth.

you emulate a culture... you have the choice and you will (despite what you think) create the conditions of that culture you want, and not have to deal with the rest.

Go live in Oakland for 8 years have a man crawl through your back yard while the sky is ablaze with the searchlights of a red-tail ghetto hawk. I bet gun fire would prolly make you lock your front door, huh? Not me.. just got about your own. Check the kid duckin in the fruitvale station and the car that spits gunfire at him while you are wating for your line to work. Ride the bus down to the warehouse in them new kicks and you'll lose a foot. rock that 60 dollar hat listening to Tupac down to richmond and you'll get laid out flat, and in an hour, when you wake up and go to buy aspirin, you'll see it behind the counter of the store where they don't speak english with a masking tape price tag on it.

I got a bit of an edge on this, having been jumped for my last cigarette while walking past the hospital after midnight, when i went out for the best views of the highland hills. Worst mistake that kid ever made, and you should have seen his mom beggin me not to kill him before I ever touched him. She knew, something wrong about a white boy walking through the OAKTOWN hoods after midnight, alone whistling in the dark. I let her son live, went to the store, talked to two people and he came up to me the next week and personally apologized. But we are not all so lucky... My boy Dylan got pistol-whipped in the face for a donut while a cop was around the corner drinking coffee.

I would pay you money if you wore half that in the Temescal after 10:00, and I lived around the block from that donut shop. And think you come sellin shoes there... you don't even know. If they will jack your tv out your living room, they will surely jack your supply before you sell it.

and it is far worse when it gets bad.

and trust me, you have a choice to emulate a culture, some of the kids in the hood don't. I had more than a few people in the hood I'd call friends, and some of them (at moments of frustration) cursed the fact that hip hop culture was something they couldn't get out from under because of the survival instinct dictates the fact if they were a dog there were less likely to be the unlucky cat the dogs are chasin.

vertical,
raum

#17

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I don't see the point of this. I never profess to be a gangsta or anything. I know I have it easy here.

You seem to forget that almost every one I do business with comes out of what you just described. One of my good friends I met online I only met because he has been on house arrest for 3 years. I have close to 20 people I do biz with in NYC. I am not a part of that, but I know what it is like. I study mad kicks and clothes, most of yall say True Religion doesn't exist, I say it does--and its crazy expensive. I am a big fan of streetball, and I like rap too. I just laid out the condition of hip-hop as best I could, and LG ignorantly and without backing it up said it aint count for shit.

How would you like it if right after you posted "The History of Iraq" I came along and said, "Thanks for that input, but go back to robbing and killing, you better at that"

That's pretty much what just happened. Completely ignores and doesn't address my post, and judges my opinion based on where I'm from.

And honestly, I think I could sell a lot better in NYC. One of the reasons I am considering college there. Thanks to swimming, I am one of the toughest people I know regarding pain tolerance, and with that comes a lot of confidence. I'm sure I'd have to adjust, but if I could make it a month or two, I think I'd survive. Real recognize real.

Oh and, I wouldnt be listening to Tupac, and I'd like to see someone jack these new 3's I got. They wouldn't get 'em with me being conscious LoL..

Lost Ghost · #18

For real....stop acting like you're so fuckin hard because you listen to rap music. I don't give a shit if you listen to tupac....so do I, does that make you tougher than someone who listens to punk rock music? In your opinion, yes.

We've had this discussion before...when I told you off, and you bring it up again?

You're completely 100% wrong in every facet of your statement that "people who live in the ghetto...are tougher than people who live in the suburbs"

there are little pussy kids everywhere inthe world...and there are big tough "gangsters" everywhere in the world as well.

SOME people who live in the "ghetto" do live hard lives....but not everyone does.

Not everyone who lives on this side of town owns a gun...while on the other side of town...they don't even know how to fight.

Your shitty generalizations about everything....are always wrong.

I bet you'd honestly argee with me....that if you're skin color was darker...you'd be tougher. Right?

If I lived in Harlem, the same lifestyle...the same upbringing.....if your opinion, I've lived a hard life...and am really tough. Why's that? Because you assiocate Harlem with what you see on TV?

You ever been to a ghetto?

You don't get gangraped and killed for walking to school in the morning. There are good kids...and there are bad kids, like everywhere else. The ratio may be different, but its still not every single one.

But let's stop bullshiting.....you don't mean people who live int he ghettos.....you wanna say "black people"

and I'll be goddamned if I gotta hear more shit about how black people have it soooo tough, and theres never been a single white person in the world who has suffered.

Some white people are poor....some black people are rich.....but the way you like to think of it....every white person wears polo t-shirts and can't fight for shit...because he lives in the suburbs.

Except you of course...you live in the suburbs...but you're a downright gangster.

Don't judge people based on skin color or where they live. I know people who live in the ghetto who are spoiled and rich and snobby and bitchmade....and I know people who live in the suburbs who can't afford cable or airconditioning or new clothes......

Don't label communities of people because one lives on the southside and one lives on the west side...and then call me ignorant.

Your statements are the most ignorant I've ever heard, white or black, suburbs or ghetto.....

#19

LG,

are you talkin to me? :shock:

nah, seriously. I'm not sayin there is only hate in the hood. There's alot of love, and I seen that too. I really miss it, here in the suburbs I'm about to go crazy. I wasn't raised to not know the middle name of the man who lives across the street. this is like purgatory.

and Aemeth,

You gotta realize that New York is nothing like Oakland.

Man, you can walk down a street in New York with a grip in your pocket, and a man in a 10,000 dollar suit passes you with a smile. In Brooklyn!

New York is full of too much power to feel the kind of desperation I am talking about. Trenton got harder gangs then New York, and they draw more blood for it.

NY hip-hop is awesome, and far nicer, and they got so much money and unity here you could say it is the opposite spectrum of Oakland, which is still close to my heart. one of the reasons I hit this coast is because I got more life to taste, and here is a place to drink deeply. but you will NOT taste the hood until you bleed for it. and then it is still watered down, cause you got a pair of 3's insulating you from the cold hard fact of the street you will never feel beneath your bare feet.

and it ain't a black thing, a white thing, a wrong thing or a right thing... it's a human thing, and the ghetto sucks, but for times it's all people have,.. so they claim it, and make it their own before they lose that too.

that's what paint on the wall is about...

#20

:springer:

... and i really apreciate the dedication you put in this to not have an end, though i'd prefer the Flame on! threads cause they have better sits!