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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:30 am
by Lost Ghost
They're for medicinal purposes right?

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:55 pm
by AYHJA
You must not know that they are typically one in the same..? Steroids/anabolic steroids...All steroids meant to be injected into the body typically do the same thing...

I take it for my allergies and asthma...The one I take is anabolic, which is why I only get it a few times a year, I don't want to have my bones falling apart and or get addicted to them...

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:00 pm
by B-Diddy
I have a friend who has to get a shot once a week for allergies but not steroids. I think it's just antibiotics.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:16 pm
by AYHJA
Yeah, my allergies are really on the extreme side, I've had them for so long that no typical medicine can treat them...I am pretty immune to most prescription drugs, definitely most over the counter stuff...I've done every sort of imaginable therapy for an allergy sufferer twice, and no dice...The steroids are an extreme resort...

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:07 am
by Lost Ghost
Damn...what kind allergies you got?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:56 pm
by raum
Lg, you forgot Lance Armstrong wasn't even a contender for the win before his life was redifined by Cancer. he FOCUSED. and if his survival isn't enough, his victory surely is. The steroids he took were essentially equivalent to the insulin shots a diabetic takes. They were to counter a deficiency, not to give him a competitive edge.

how many football basketball or baseball greats were gettin chemo? or have been diagnosed with TERMINAL testicular, skin, bone, and brain cancer? I think he's a hero for gettin across that finish line AT ALL. cause he showed and DONATED time, money and effort to Cancer research. He is a hero to cancer patients who have lost livelyhood and limb, and his story is a testament to the willpower of humanity that has not lost the thriving instict. You get tired of things that are made a big deal of, and I bet you just feel this is played out, and maybe to soem degree it is, but you obviously have never looked at the tour de france, in historical perspective or what it symbolizes for a terminal patient (in remedial) to win it 7 times consecutively.

We make a big deal of it because cancer is damn confusing. And we all know someone who's life was taken by it, and we can't stand to see a level of human condition where their own body turns against them. This shows it can be beaten, and even if it will kill you Like Peter Jennings whom the nation mourned for good reason, it will not keep you from accomplishing your dreams if you give it your all.

and if that kind of talk annoys you, then, so be it. I, for one think he is amazing, as is my grandmother, who gets chemo every week and lost a leg and arm to cancer - yet she uses her years of nursing experience in the admin office at the home she resides in. She gets paid to be in the hospital, and has a job, and all of her medical is paid by her benefits.

and my grandfather, whom I just lost, who never missed a day of work because he weren't no "whimp."

But my grandmother is still alive, and she just looks at it as a job transfer.

and she's a hero, because she didn't quit what she loved because of fear or pain or sadness,.. even though most people in her situation would consider their life essentially *over.*

vertical,
raum

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:24 am
by Lost Ghost
Let's put in in prospective.


Everyone who survives cancer is a hero to someone...I can accept that.

The way you just said things...Lance Armstrong became a winner after he had cancer....if that isn't steriods......what is?!


If he's innocent...more power to him. I like the guya nd think what he is doing is great.......but he's not a world icon just because he survived something taht...now days...everyone is gonna go through. Nor because he set a record for Tour De France's.

Is John Wooden a hero for winning NCAA Titles?

Beating Cancer....winning....yeah tahts great, and it was....a year ago.


Now I'm just sick of hearing about it.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:26 am
by Aemeth
This is pathetic.

Lance Armstrong was a phenom triathlete in his early teens. Triathalons are THE MOST PHYSICALLY GRUELING events. Period. While I was at the Colorado Olympic Training Center I learned Triathletes be downin 7,000 to 9,000 calories a day. And I thought the 5,000 I ate for swimming was a lot!

He specialized in biking, but that is still one of the hardest sports training-wise. Then the cancer. 10% chance to live. Then to win it 7 times in a row. That's like Michael Doleac getting real sick, but then coming back to win 7 MVP's in a row. Maybe an NBA championship as well...or 4....Plus, the LiveStrong bands are responsible for starting the big "band-wave". Not to mention all the millions of dollars he raised for cancer in the process (although we already have a cure, but diff thread..).

I dunno if he used steriods or not. That's not my call. But I did watch this thing on him on Discovery Channel or some shit. Crazy. His heart can pump like 2x the blood of a normal person. Plus they covered all the training he did, 8-10 hours a day sometimes.

I get tired of hearing it too.

But the fact is, Lance deserves all of it.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:50 pm
by raum
I ain't saying I am not tired of hearing about it, but there are so many you don't hear about... that its good to FINALLY hear about one of them.

and being that I think about sports approximately three hours a week, how come I can't spend twenty minutes on him.

But aside from that:

post-active testing for juice has not been done in other circumstances, and this is clearly French resentment. It's just Lance that got his results leaked to the press years after they were originally dignosed for something they didn't even test for then. I got a question, WHO the hell allowed them to test. By International medical law, you have a right to consent or refuse to any test of any part of your anatomy, including fluids - IF IT IS A ORGANIZATION not sanctioned by the UN. The only organizations who do that must safeguard the results, per the human information act, and are government sanctioned.

The French have already said this inquiry was not publicly sanctioned. That defines the post-victory analysis of reserve samples as criminal, and technically - Piracy of human matter - for compensation by media sources.

I can't believe people want to send Karl Rove to an early grave over a information transgression, but noone wants this lab's testing rights revoked. Which has been more damaging and a waste of media consumption?

you wanna hear another hero for a change - how about Jim Abbott?

a man with one hand since birth. and a straight king on the diamond for just making it on. and he hardly ever said NOTHIN about having a hook.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:20 pm
by Aemeth
Indeed, Jim Abbot was a soldier.