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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:54 pm
by raum
exactly my feelings.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:38 pm
by AYHJA
Well said, LG...

Your swing, trash...

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:46 pm
by trashtalkr
Thanks for moderating A....you're doing a great job. lmao

Anyway....sure, they have a choice whether to take their life or not but what I'm against is the getting the doctors involved. You're telling doctors to pretty much murder someone and that's against the law and just plain wrong. If they are in too much pain take your life. But don't make a doctor murder you

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:55 pm
by AYHJA
LMAO...I do what I can...

OK, I must have missed it that first time, but I see your point this go round...I was understanding that we were talking about a Dr. Kevorkian(sp) kind of thing, and not doctors being forced to be the executioner...I am thinking man with terminal illness asks doctor to take him off artificial support, and doctor complies without any reprocussions to him for having done that, rather than be sued by some family member that doesn't want to let go...

Shit, let me go back and reread the article...

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:51 pm
by bd55
QUOTE(AYHJA)QUOTE(RIMFIRE)if you're terminal, uncomfortable with your living condition, and are ready to go, I say let's pull out the party hats, turn up the music, tie one on for one last time and send'em out with the sort of dignity they deserve.

Bout sums it up for me as well...

Same here. No point in forcing someone to live a life where nothing except suffering will be acomplished.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:55 am
by Lost Ghost
Which doctor slips the pill is, in my opinion irrelevant. This doctor feels like he's a murderer? Then have him go find another doctor in the hospitial who doesn't mind. I see what you're saying, but its a very small issue. I don't think the patient cares who he gets it from...as long as he gets it.

I was too young to actually be around the hospitial, but when my grandfather was dying...my mom said it was painful to watch, because everytime he opened his eyes again after sleeping or being sedated....he looked dissapointed and just tired of fighting.

It's cases like these that make the issue seem like common sense, but I can see where the conflict arrises, but my personal opinion isn't going to change.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:08 am
by Logic
I agree with Raum and LG...

And just to throw in a little something, I think the Doctor should remain anonymous... so that people, even if he don't think s/he is, don't call him a murderer and shit..

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:53 am
by deepdiver32073
Logic has a good point there too. In an era where doctors who perform perfectly legal and safe abortions are being stalked and murdered, anonymity would be very beneficial to a doctor who chooses to help out a suffering patient. I've worked in hospitals where doctors have bemoaned the fact that they cannot do anything further to ease the pain of patients who are in the end stages of cancer or other debilitating disease.

I have a Living Will that specifies what I don't want done to me in the event of a terminal illness or accident. I strongly suggest that everyone take the time to do one for themselves, because if the unthinkable happens, and you're not able to make the decision at the time, someone else will!

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:50 am
by raum
Personally, I think three doctors who all give their opinion that the person has the medical right to die is the best way to do it.., just like the firing squad, where only one person has a live round, so no one is labeled with the execution...

NOW THIS IS BULL SHIT!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:50 pm
by raum
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 21,00.html

Can you believe that? Like the floodwaters rising, the city in chaos... and euthanasia is still gonna be manslaughter.

the fu-?