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In their defense, one of their key defensive players was out of the game...But I don't think it would have mattered, Smith scorched asses their first time around if I'm not mistaken...I'm not so sure if it is as much bad defense, as it was a poor scheme...Chicago was very much in the game, in fact, their offense wasn't that stagnant...Just too much Steve...Too many defenders falling, too many blown coverages...I don't recall that Carolina ran the ball well, and I remember several big hits...But anytime 1 guys murders your team like that...Damn...Then again...

Steve did that to everyone this year, didn't he..?

I think the problem isn't that they are over or underrated, its that they are in Chicago...And any defense is going to draw comparisons to the 85 Bears D, which might be the best ever the game played...Maybe more than any other NFL city except SF and Dallas, Chicago has cast some big fucking shadows...If that defense was in Phoenix playing like that, they'd be called overachievers...

OK, smartass, obviously you didn't read my fucking posts from 3 days ago, which really shouldn't surprise me, since it appears that you NEVER take the time to read and digest what someone writes, you just spout shit off at the drop of the hat and treat it as though it's the gospel. What did impress me was that, even though you did throw out a list of meaningless analogies.....none of them included Kobe Bryant. :gw:

I didn't realize that I was going to have to expand on each point in my post especially to a kid that is the most popular person in his high school class, that could qualify as academic All-American and will more than likely end up with a free ride from OSU.....because you like their football program :wtf:......but here goes:

Here is what you did dig out of the vast knowledge you hold:

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okay...the Ravens have a great defense...and everyone knows it...........and this is the same situation as saying "the Ravens are overrated...and you know why....because Kyle Boller is a terrible QB".....well....we know they have a shitty QB....the reason they are touted as a good team is because of their defense...not because of their QB...†™ ¢‚¬„¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¢†™‚¢‚¢¢¢‚¬Å¡‚¬¦‚¡¢‚¬Å¡‚¬?

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If you would have taken the time to READ my post you would have seen that I was trying to make the point that they played some of the worst teams in the league and their record was indicative of their level of competition.

Re-read the part of my post where I say:

"7 of their 11 wins came against the Lions, Packers, 49ers, Saints and Ravens who had a combined record of 21-68 and two (2) other wins came against the Vikings when they were 1-3 and against the Falcons who we all know is a farce..."

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Let me break it down a little more for you:

Check out the offensive output of these teams....three of them rank in the bottom 5 in the league, Baltimore ranks in the bottom 8 and Green Bay ranks 22nd.....as a matter of fact they only beat one (1) team that ranked the top 1/2 of the league in total offense and that was the Panthers, who they lost to last week......remember?? They gave up 450 yards to them.

Next you dazzled me with:

It's like saying Duke is overrated because their PG doesn't rank the top in the league in any category....the reason they are rated highly is because of J.J. Reddick and Sheldon Williams....telling me their point gaurd sucks is no way diminishes the fact that their a good team....because their PG isn't what makes them a good team

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Now let's go back to what has caused this whole discussion.....I said the Bears were OVERRATED.

Obviously you don't understand what the word means so, for your benefit, I have included the definition:

OVERRATED

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To overestimate the merits of; rate too highly.

I made points as to why I thought the above statement was true and you, as usual, disagreed but failed to prove your point.....AGAIN!

QUOTE(Lost Ghost)excuse me? Care to back that up....or are you going to continue to make yourself a worthless never-posting-a-post-more-than-20-sylabulls member?

Hmmm, I'm sure AYHJA can tell you I am far more than a "worthless" member. Also, if you are going to use the word "syllable" you might want to spell it correctly.

The reasons have already been stated. I'm not going to waste my time repeating them. You'd think someone would know their own favorite team at least a little bit. Nobody can be that dumb and blind.

There, that was more than 20 syllables. Have a great day! :roll:

What a great point you just made....fabolous contribution to the dicussion "yeah...i agree"...thats all your kind ever has to say....so just sit on the sidelines for this one and stop stroking dick ok?

No one ever thought the Ravens were a good team? Sub-par teams are winning superbowls now?...damn...go figure.

I didn't realize that I was going to have to expand on each point in my post especially to a kid that is the most popular person in his high school class, that could qualify as academic All-American and will more than likely end up with a free ride from OSU.....because you like their football program ......but here goes:

now...since you seem to be high-and-mighty..and hate is not in your vocabulary....wtf is with this personal onslaught? We get heated about Reggie Bush but I never say "you dont deserve an answer...and i dont have to expand my poitns to you...and let me break down why I think you're a failure of a person"......dude fuck you.....since I'm young...I dont deserve a breakdown of your points? you can kiss my ass........and then you gonna go and say you like me and theres no hate....you took that shit personal...and I got a problem with that.....you want to win....fine....in your mind the bears are overrated...I'm biased because they're my home team.....but for someone who acts like I'm a horrible person for defending myself in threads where I'm constantly outnumbered....you took that personal stab too far....

Dude......don't come at me with:

"Rim....instead of taking your ball and going home....how about debating some of the poitns I've put out?......unless you're unwilling to do so unless Ayhja is on your side spouting off facts so you can say "yep....i agree" to them....."

and expect me to tuck and turn......I did EXACTLY as you asked and you didn't like it.

hell man, I'll eat you for breakfast and shit you out before lunch........but I never said I hated you *for the record* I think it's kind of cute to have you running around here and all....

This is still going on? There is no debate...the bears are overrated and they lost. End of story. Time for next season for you.

CDR...

Off Topic:

LG...Why do you think that people need me on their side..? You CAN'T know me and Rim's history and think that shit...Nobody here "kisses" up to me, that fucking sucks that you keep saying that...Cut it out, really...We are grown men, the fuck Rim need me to validate him for and vice versa..? We all have disagreed in these forums from time to time, why don't you try to figure out why it is always you involved in these kind of exchanges...

End Off Topic:

As far as forumlating an argumentative post, LG...Look at it like this...First post, and your first reply...Rim responded with facts and statistics...He pretty much proved his point by saying the Bears were an overrated TEAM...

You made no attempt to respond to that in a fashion that I personally would have found satisfactory...Somebody comes at you with a statistic...That is logical and makes sense...

Why would you come back with an analogy..?

QUOTEYou CAN'T know me and Rim's history and think that shit...

Amen to that!!!




I still laugh about that.

QUOTETT....I seriously think you lack the mental capacity to particiapte in debates......

Me? Right.... All you do in debates is bash the other person because you dont' like what they say. That's not debating. I've tried to show you facts also about why the Bears aren't as good as you say they are and all you do is bash me saying that I can't participate. Rim just tried it in this topic and you do the same thing to him. How about you try some real debating....dont' bash the person but defend your statement. I honestly don't think you've done that yet

and the fact that you consider yourself a sports man...and you've never been in a single debate in the forum since it started about any sports just tells you why I'm thinking that........

There is no possible reason as to how someone can be involved in sports talk and never get into a debate or have afflicting positions.....so whats your excuse?

either you agree with both sides......or you never come back to the thread once the debate starts.....or you show up after the dust has cleared and say "yeah see LG....he proved stats...so I agree !"...how come you're never providing stats and getting involved?

I guess it has nothing to do with your mental capacity...but grow some back bone and get in these dicussions before you critize how someone else does it...