Best Hip Hop Producer

[Habib]

I still don't get something, what is up with Mr. Ayhja and the amount of albums that Dre has produced for himself. For your information, even whenever Dre is being interviewed, he tells them this "I'm not a selfish person...I'm in the artist modelling mode always", Dr. Dre isn't a greedy person, he isn't the kinda person that wanna produce huge amounts of albums for himself. His main priority is getting the new artists (in Aftermath or outside) up and putting in his best for them...
On the subject of "Dr. Dre has only produced 2 albums", YES he only produced 2 albums for himself, but those 2 were classic legendary albums, nobody can argue that. The Chronic is rated on MTV right now as the best produced album in rap history, and Dr. Dre received a "lifetime achievement award" for The Chronic 2001...
Even if recently, Dr. Dre isn't making many beats as much as Pharell, remember, everybody is up for "quality", and not "quantity". All the beats that Dr. Dre put effort in and made for people, everyone went crazy about it. Again, 50 Cent's biggest single ever, which is In Da Club, that was produced by Dre, who's gonna argue with me that the whole world wasn't crazy abou that song..? It was even in a record that it was the MOST 'listened to' song ...The same thing goes for The Game, How We Do was produced by Dre as well, everyone was crazy about it too...Dre has also produced most of the Great White Hype's (Eminem) award winning songs...Dr. Dre is also the only producer that's recieved a grammy for 'Producer of the Year'...
I'll conclude this by saying that even though Pharell releases beats for people like everyday, and Dr. Dre releases his once in a blue moon, we want quality and not quantity. There's no doubt if you listen to both of their beats that Dr. Dre's outbeats Pharell's...I mean, this is crazy, it's like comparing a kindergaten to a high school. Pharell is just a starter, with time, MAYBE he'll get there, but he's can't do half of what Dr. Dre does...Dre is more experienced, and that's why he's always with the better quality shit...Peace...

[AYHJA]

What Neptunes produced beat have you heard...

That wasn't quality..?

[Habib]

Umm, most of 'em, or do I have to mention all of 'em name by name..? LoL...

[AYHJA]

It would help prove your point, because it seems all the Neputune based beats that come to my mind are super hot, and the public treats them that way...

You should, if you want your argument to have substance...

And it would make sense, since Dre has been producing longer than you have been alive...It would be nice to see how you can both validate your claims of Dre's impact when you really weren't around to experience them personally, as well as Pharell's inability to make a decent beat...

None of the points you make about Dre are invalide for Pharell, excluding length of time producing...The bulk of The Neptune's work is done for other artists...And the number of Neptune CD's...2...

Lets see this list of horrible Neptune beats you have...

[Habib]

I don't need a list, I'd say all of them are horrible...Besides, it's not like you were alive either when Dre was producing...Of course Pharell's beats would sound super hot to your own ears, that's 'coz you're a hater of Dr. Dre...
Anway, this whole shit doesn't make sense as I said, and it's disrespectful...you're comparing a pioneer/legend to a baby boy who can't do a quarter as much, it's like comparing 2 Pac to Bow Wow, see that..? LoL...

[AYHJA]

QUOTE(habib41)I don't need a list, I'd say all of them are horrible...

You just rendered your entire stance pointless...Thanks for playing..!

[Habib]

QUOTE(AYHJA)QUOTE(habib41)I don't need a list, I'd say all of them are horrible...

You just rendered your entire stance pointless...Thanks for playing..!


Nah, you did render yours pointless, you haven't won me yet, for your information...so don't say "thanks for playing..!" yet...

[AYHJA]

You just said that every Neptune's beat you've heard is trash...

I'm sorry, but for me to come down to that level and talk to you isn't something I'm willing to do...

[raum]

Dre developed image and transcended race; but he can't sing, and his rap is lack-lustre. G-Funk is his claim to fame. From his own site: Dre was never much of a rapper -- his rhymes were simple and his delivery was slow and clumsy -- but as a producer, he was extraordinary. Conversely, go listen to when Pharell, Chad and Timbaland were in Surrounded by idiots before they went separate ways. Since then, Pharrell has developed style and transcended every genre of music, and taken the game to a whole new level. There could not have been a Pharell without a Dre years before him, but Skateboard-P and Chad are aiming for a different level; A level like Quincy Jones. And it looks like they are suceeding, without putting artists and managers at gunpoint.

He has simultaneously been leading on the charts for hip-hop, r&b, and rock at the same time, and taken many artists from one dimension of Rock, Metal, Country, Jazz, blues, Rap, Hip-Hop, R&B, Acoustic and synthesized those genres to the next. And if you want to say they are all horrible, you might as well give up music, cause he is solid from the dirty-dirty to the hirdy-girdy, man. Britney, Justin Timberlake, Noreaga, N*Sync, Boys To Men, Ma$e, Usher, Garbage, J-Lo, Mariah Carey, Clipse, Daft Punk, Babyface, Yin Yang Twins, Fab, Nelly, Ludacris, O.D.B., Kelis, NAS, Talib Kweli, Alicia Keys, Destiny's Child, Counting Crows, Janet Jackson, Kid rock, Korn, Linkin Park, Lil Kim, Bow Wow, Mystikal, P. Diddy, Prince, Sean Paul, T.I., TLC, Faith Evans, Snoop, Gwen, and Slim Thug ~ It don't matter who you listen to, Pharell has rubbed them, or has it in his calendar to give them a massage: Can Dre say that?

Simple and put: Pharell will pimp anyone, and people will buy his wares. That is what a producer does. He consistently comes with it, and has since high school. Since HE was in high school, and WE were in high school. And despite what people think, he is not new to the game. DID YOU KNOW: Rump Shaker by Wreckx-n-Effect. He sold that to them in '92, when i was a Senior, while he and chad were still in high school!!! That song bought from Pha-Real carried the entire album of crap to #9, and was a solid double platinum hit, and his first song, and the Number 5 on the entire charts for 1992. you could not go three feet without hearing someone anywhere between 50 years old or 5 sing "all I wanna do is a zoom-a-zooma-zoom-zoom ana boom boom!" Then, the next year, Dre's 1992 release of The Chronic finally goes muti-platinum.

Pharell's first track went to the Annual top 10, when Dre's first album after more than 5 years of creating the genre of g-rap went without mention... until it blew up the next year.

and like I SAID HE's POPPIN OUT VOLTRON! and in film, he has worked with Quentin Tarantino. How gangsta is that?

(I just love how's there is always a young'n who gotta think he needs to school old school, and don't realize he has a lot to learn.)

vertical,
raum

[AYHJA]

Shit, I didn't even know he produced rump shaker...Always good shit in a raum post...

QUOTE(raum)It don't matter who you listen to, Pharell has rubbed them, or has it in his calendar to give them a massage: Can Dre say that?

Well...Can he..?