Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:28 pm
QUOTEI even know COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS and Network/Database managers who use IE! fucken crazy!!!!
Well, as a point, many of the online applications I use to work and keep the lights on don't work in IE, and while you may think FF is a resource hog, try transferring 32+ 1.7 gig excel files through a ODBC into a oracle based federal database using FF. It crashes, burns, is reduced to ashes, and is scattered by the wind. and I do this several times a month. Part of this is because the native code for the IE browser gets loaded when you boot the system. Firefox is not an integrated browser, has no standards outside of its developers whims, and thus requires participation to achieve a product that meets your needs. Would you want to have to work on all the farms that your groceries are grown on?
I actually got a completely professional Magus who is the lifesblood of the energy market informational structure who uses firefox personally to load and configure it, and then THEY CHANGED IT AGAIN and all that work became useless.
IE is built into the functionality of everything I do because it is an inherit system element for MS application suite that drives my income and my professional growth exponentionally.
The delay with the toolbar is annoying and shoddy, and the digital signatures used by gov sites interfere with functionality.
The delay to load is aggravating, and causes me to wonder "it this POS going to work this time?"
Buying online is murky dismal at best, and my experience with that almost put me off buying ANYTHING online.
I print online, and do some web development. Just seeing if FF works properly is why I have it.
There is no quality control or standard for extension. The grass-roots level of knowledge required is cultish.
This is a browser for developers, not users. Many times, I am just a "user" and FF is just painfully high manitenance.
Many of the sites i find useful or entertaining are made by people who have more important things to do than learn new code for browsers that will change before they learn them, and have to include contingencies for extensions they may not even know about.
Mainly, if IE is broken, we know who to blame... If Firefox is to blame, it will come to rest on the user, who is not a developer.
not to mention our intranet basis is unable to render in FF, the lack of PDA supports, the lacklustre performance for tablet pc's (which i use, remember?),..
NOW, the strategy is far bigger than the issues I have with the technical compliance...
IF I demanded that the gov make it where I could do my work in FF, it would cost them TENS OF MILLIONS to assure completel compatibility. The only way they can afford this is by penalizing the market participants. This would make the Office of Market Offset Investigations (the "Enron" police) have to attack companies for failing their own technical and Sarbanes-Oxley compliance. This means if they make the switch, we HAVE to make the switch, which our risk analysis system doesn't support - and thus they heavily fine us to be able to afford to make their switch, which would ultimately cost me my job, and be a ventue costing about 27 million dollars of gov funding (just for the FERC) which they would take from the energy companies, who would have to gouge the average consumer to be able to afford to keep certain plants open. All in all, after 27 million dollars in fines, it would take us about 62 million dollars to make the change so I could do my work (except i would not be here, and might get car bombed by commercial operations) - and we could stand to lose our ability to set Market based rates, which is how we make affordable energy prices lucrative enough to keep in business.
This means many companies would go bust, and the gov would have to maintain the energy grid itself, and we would spend at least ANOTHER 287+ Billion dollars a year to do so.
So, let me ask you, does FireFox make sense for me, you or America? It might make sense for you, IF it works for you.
This is why the "BEST" is not always the BEST SOLUTION, and can be far more costly than just personal convenience; and the reason CHANGE needs to be gradual and timely.
vertical,
raum
Well, as a point, many of the online applications I use to work and keep the lights on don't work in IE, and while you may think FF is a resource hog, try transferring 32+ 1.7 gig excel files through a ODBC into a oracle based federal database using FF. It crashes, burns, is reduced to ashes, and is scattered by the wind. and I do this several times a month. Part of this is because the native code for the IE browser gets loaded when you boot the system. Firefox is not an integrated browser, has no standards outside of its developers whims, and thus requires participation to achieve a product that meets your needs. Would you want to have to work on all the farms that your groceries are grown on?
I actually got a completely professional Magus who is the lifesblood of the energy market informational structure who uses firefox personally to load and configure it, and then THEY CHANGED IT AGAIN and all that work became useless.
IE is built into the functionality of everything I do because it is an inherit system element for MS application suite that drives my income and my professional growth exponentionally.
The delay with the toolbar is annoying and shoddy, and the digital signatures used by gov sites interfere with functionality.
The delay to load is aggravating, and causes me to wonder "it this POS going to work this time?"
Buying online is murky dismal at best, and my experience with that almost put me off buying ANYTHING online.
I print online, and do some web development. Just seeing if FF works properly is why I have it.
There is no quality control or standard for extension. The grass-roots level of knowledge required is cultish.
This is a browser for developers, not users. Many times, I am just a "user" and FF is just painfully high manitenance.
Many of the sites i find useful or entertaining are made by people who have more important things to do than learn new code for browsers that will change before they learn them, and have to include contingencies for extensions they may not even know about.
Mainly, if IE is broken, we know who to blame... If Firefox is to blame, it will come to rest on the user, who is not a developer.
not to mention our intranet basis is unable to render in FF, the lack of PDA supports, the lacklustre performance for tablet pc's (which i use, remember?),..
NOW, the strategy is far bigger than the issues I have with the technical compliance...
IF I demanded that the gov make it where I could do my work in FF, it would cost them TENS OF MILLIONS to assure completel compatibility. The only way they can afford this is by penalizing the market participants. This would make the Office of Market Offset Investigations (the "Enron" police) have to attack companies for failing their own technical and Sarbanes-Oxley compliance. This means if they make the switch, we HAVE to make the switch, which our risk analysis system doesn't support - and thus they heavily fine us to be able to afford to make their switch, which would ultimately cost me my job, and be a ventue costing about 27 million dollars of gov funding (just for the FERC) which they would take from the energy companies, who would have to gouge the average consumer to be able to afford to keep certain plants open. All in all, after 27 million dollars in fines, it would take us about 62 million dollars to make the change so I could do my work (except i would not be here, and might get car bombed by commercial operations) - and we could stand to lose our ability to set Market based rates, which is how we make affordable energy prices lucrative enough to keep in business.
This means many companies would go bust, and the gov would have to maintain the energy grid itself, and we would spend at least ANOTHER 287+ Billion dollars a year to do so.
So, let me ask you, does FireFox make sense for me, you or America? It might make sense for you, IF it works for you.
This is why the "BEST" is not always the BEST SOLUTION, and can be far more costly than just personal convenience; and the reason CHANGE needs to be gradual and timely.
vertical,
raum