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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:55 pm
by raum
and then the next day, when she apologized she brought personnel security that could possibly be a Georgia state trooper, which is also restricted.
They are irritated, but not pushing it. The Capitol Police like to operate in discretion.
In either case, the apology did not satisfy the police force. The union for the Capitol Police issued a statement indicating they do not consider the matter settled. "The criminal penalty for an assault of an officer is not an apology," reads the statement.
See, she done messed up. BIG TIME. She has come against the law, she is sworn to uphold and define.
If fact, how it went down, was the Capitol Police released this:
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Longworth House Office Building Incident
3:40 p.m.
Last week, there was an incident involving Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) and a United States Capitol Police Officer. The United States Capitol Police has referred its investigative findings to the United States Attorney.
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Within hours, she was up there with Danny Glover and a bunch of other people who are not involved, because no one involved will support her.
I'm not saying "put her in jail", I'm saying suspend her from Congress, let her second act in her stead, and let her face the jury and let them decide.
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:33 pm
by AYHJA
Why is the name of the officer being kept under wraps..?
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:36 pm
by Bot
An official report has been filed. It states that McKinney punched the officer in the chest with her fist.
Police report: McKinney hit officer with fist
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:41 pm
by AYHJA
Guys, this is what happened...
Dude saw a super ethnic looking chick (I understand the lady recently had braids taken down) skate through the metal detectors "as members of Congress are allowed to do" and stopped her...He probably grabbed her, and got jabbed...He's a 3 year veteran of the force, so there goes all that new guy theory...
She consciously may or may not have put on her pin...But if she'd been used to doing exactly what she did...Only this time she got grabbed...
In Washington D.C. (Peep the crime rates playas)
On top of that she's from Atlanta...
And she reacted...
But, let me get this straight now...For the sake of the argument...
1. He grabbed her according to official police protocol, and acted accordingly for a man in his position...
2. He stopped her for security reasons (even tho you don't need a photo ID to get in, and congressmen REGULARLY go around the detectors)
3. After 3 years on the force dude can't recognize a face, but is expected to keenly identify this or something similar on sight and ID business as usual:
Do I have that right..? Somenoe correct me if I'm wrong now...
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:09 pm
by raum
Guys, this is what happened...
Dude saw a person who had no pin of congress skate AROUND the metal detectors "as members of Congress are allowed to do" (to keep them from waiting in the tourist lines, yeah) and then after the dutiful officer tried to stop her three times...He grabbed The Honorable Congresswoman who did not even attempt to identify herself as he is authorized to physically detain all unidentified people who try to boar through access points, and got jabbed...He's a 3 year veteran of the force who has not seen her since January, before her hair was changed for the first time in more than 11 years...
She did not put on her pin...But if she'd been used to doing exactly what she did OR SHE WOULD HAVE STOPPED AND SAID, "Officer, don't you recognize me? Georgia 4, McKinney?" which what no less than 40 congressmen or aides do a month ...Only this time she got grabbed...
In Washington D.C. (Peep the crime rates playas) - ON CAPITAL HILL, where there are no less than 4 other current cases of officers who have physically detained people who tried to just walk around the metal detectors (like they see the congress people do. "Oh, I see. I gotta have a pin. I was wondering why you let him through."
On top of that she's from Atlanta... I suspect that is far more the case. She is not acting like she is on capital hill,..
And she reacted...
But, let me get this straight now...For the sake of the argument...
1. He grabbed her according to official police protocol, and acted accordingly for a man in his position...
Correct. The Capital hill police have had several citizens complain about being physically grabbed when they triy and boar access. The complaints get droped, because they ARE AUTHORIZED TO PHYSICALLY DETAIN according to their rules of engagement and MOAB (Management of Aggressive Behavior) authorizes using grabbing, blocking, or physically blocking a door to enforce access control after three verbal attempts to have the person idenitify themselves.
2. He stopped her for security reasons (even tho you don't need a photo ID to get in, and congressmen REGULARLY go around the detectors)
This is far more common than you think. One of the primary rules of Acess Control is it cannot interfere with operations. The ideal way for this to be handled is for Congress to have their own entrance to the Longworth building, and they do. Most, however, use the entrance or exit closest and most convenient. At one time this whole building was pretty much unrestricted, but a security issues regarding a attempted murder, resulting in the deaths of two capital hill police changed that. Congress recognized the need for security, but unanimously voted against "intrusive" security measures for Members of the House.
3. After 3 years on the force dude can't recognize a face, but is expected to keenly identify this or something similar on sight and ID business as usual:
I agree he should recognize her, but he is not required to. She IS required to identify herself, if challenged at an access control point. I have heard several Congress members including Tom Lay, former Head of Congress (who was publicly smeared until he was forced to quit to handle his personal business, and then the case *mysteriously* was thrown out) who were not recognized, and had to say "It's OK Officer, I am Tom Lay, Head of congress, and I sent my pin to the cleaners with my good suit."
She just failed to recognize the authority of the Police on Capital Hill, which is not wise.
As it is, the Capital Hill Police just filed the case to the prosecuter, who will (as in all cases) decide to issue a warrant or dismiss the issue.
But I think she did it on purpose. You HEARD me.
This did wonders for her support in the area, and divided the people supporting her main Republican opponent, who is also a black woman, and had come from low income family, and knew firsthand the ills of being a single mother. But what this does is makes her a person who can relate to her constituients, because she is being oppressed, ridiculed, and abused in the elected office of her appointment; which just happens to coincide with the passing of some of the most revered women in the late civil rights movement.
When she is the one who leaked it out, as a call to the issues of race with Danny Glover and Harry Belafonte, because not even a single black or white male or female member of Congress would speak on her behalf. Then when the race card wasn't working, it became a move to address the security of the nation, which IS the hot topic for political gain.
you do realize she faces reelection in November, right?
media whore,
Ch
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:03 pm
by AYHJA
OK, then lets ask this question...
We already know that she wasn't forcing her way in...She was doing what she normally does...So, again, the question is would he have stopped her if she was wearing that little bitty ass pin on her shirt..?
You see pin, you let her go no questions asked..?
Just don't make sense to me...And the hallway that I saw they use, was not some ultra huge, hard to control security point...There is no way in hell he could have been standing there doing his job as usual, watch McKinney go through and then say, "Hmm...I don't know her...Let me grab her..."
She wasn't running full speed trying to get through...She walked...He saw she didn't have her pin on from a mile way I bet..Dude grabbed her and got jabbed...She should have been wearing that pin only to get away with the jab...
:jtd:
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:24 pm
by Bot
He didn't think, "Hmm. I don't know her." He called out to her three times. She ignored him.
She should have just worn the pin, this shit never would have happened.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:36 pm
by AYHJA
I haven't read anywhere, including your original post article, that he called her any number of times...
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:51 pm
by Bot
I might have gotten mixed up with the number of years he's been an officer. lol The point still stands, though. He called out to her, and she ignored him.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:23 pm
by raum
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_articl ... ryid=77991
Eye witness:
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Her statement:
"I was rushing to my meeting when a white police officer yelled to me. He approached me, bodyblocked me, physically touching me. I used my arm to get him off of me. I told him not to touch me several times. He asked for my ID and I showed it to him. He then let me go and I proceeded to my meeting and I assume that the Police Officer resumed his duties. I have counseled with the Sergeant-at-Arms and Acting Assistant Chief Thompson several times before and counseled with them again on today's incident. I offered also to counsel with the offending police officer."
Here is the event report:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/04/1 ... Report.pdf
no mention of her.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?S ... 0057-3228r
and this is her fifth time...
Woman just needs to get out of congress. she has anger issues. read HER governmental history.