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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:22 pm
by Brains
you mean: "brains is right with his last post", then?!

meaning... you agree with it?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:49 pm
by raum
no, I am saying you would come to the emotional rescue of these sickos, and afford them a mercy they showed none, deserve none.

You would ask for understanding for them, and bring in how the US is just provoking the whole thing.

and you did exactly that.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:09 pm
by Brains
do you have a problem with comprehensive reading raum?

which word do you not understand from this line: "give them a trial. lock them up. if you think the death penalty is fair, then do that. "?

but yes, that is talking about individuals whom I said from that "They are already doomed" - as in hellbound or -raiser if you will, hmm?! I even agree that these are fuckheads, but I would NOT lower myself to their level. Oh how foolish that would be!

My call for empathy - which you are most likely referring to, is towards the conflict as a whole. The reason why some of these citizens turn into brainless murderers. THAT is where I want empathy - trying to put yourself in their shoes and learn why they got driven to become so.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:20 pm
by raum
Brains, lemme go out on a limb, and ask you?

What provokes a person to RANDOMLY swipe college students phone the numbers in their addressbook and ask for ransom, and threaten to behead or worse their loved ones that are kidnapped if they don't pay a huge sum of money?

I do not think there is a DAMN thing in the world that provokes a person to so something like that.

and I do not think killing them would lower you to their level. they DEFINED the level of existence they want.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:58 pm
by Brains
examples maybe? a bleak outlook? an incompenent social security network? divorced and / or fighting parents? violence on tv? adult cartoons shown on kid channels? too much fast sugars? unhealthy eating habits? horror movies? videogames? no or lacking parental guiding? bad friends who also experienced some of these? all of the above?

I believe you are correct: there isn't a DAMN thing in the world that provokes a person to do something like that. ONE thing does not drive a person there; it would take quite a few reasons.

you WOULD lower yourself to their level, since you are acting impulsively. you said you'd wish them things like in Hellraiser. ... who knows? ... maybe they would convert completely if you just provided a solution to only one of their problems? your extreme action does completely away with rational solutions, much like that kid did away with them and chose to blackmail instead of to find a constructive outcome.

they did not define the level of existence they wanted. that level of existence came upon them.

why do depressions occur - bringing people close to suicidal or homicidal tendencies? there are plenty reasons, all very well documented by psychiatrists and psychologist worldwide. how come that it is not, when a group is led into a situation where it finds no other solution but to go to extremes?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:22 pm
by RIMFIRE
QUOTEexamples maybe? a bleak outlook? an incompenent social security network? divorced and / or fighting parents? violence on tv? adult cartoons shown on kid channels? too much fast sugars? unhealthy eating habits? horror movies? videogames? no or lacking parental guiding? bad friends who also experienced some of these? all of the above?

How about, a radical cult like religion that holds absolutly no valuse for human life.

Quite frankly, I couldn't give less of a shit as to what motivated a person to take
a completely innocent persons head off.....with a fucking knife.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:42 pm
by Brains
ispot on chap! how about the influence of a radical cult like religion where all of its members are low-paid numbers working towards the goals of a disgustingly rich board of tzars?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:52 pm
by raum
but don't you see RIMFIRE???

that other person wasn't completely innocent! he was a mean ole college student hurting the world around him. he even had a cell phone, and you know what that means CAPITALIST!!! and we all know Captialism is bad, mmkay? Just because he didn't know how much he hurt the world around him doesn't make him innocent.

That poor Freedom-fighter feels "decapitated on the inside", so he just externalizes his pain, by cutting off other people's heads. It's the only way he can deal with Western Oppression and American economic rampages across the globe. and if it weren't for those american rampages, he could afford a larger knife so he could make the beheading more humane! We should imprison him for life, and mae sure his rights are never violated again, so he doesn't have to feel pressured by adult cartoons on kids channels and poor eating habits or an incompetent social security network ever again.

who are we to cast the first stone?

oh, wait! I've never kidnapped or beheaded anyone. even though I faced divorce bad food violence and all that shit as a kid...

so gimme the friggin rock, and make it a big one!

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:41 am
by highlife
Reason for making the dissision to chop some ones head off...none and never will be.

Saying that there are not valed reasons to consider how we got into this mess and using the latest tragidy to say.. look how bad they are so lets not explore the history of the thing or how we ended up with these nut jobs....not cool

Influences for alqiuda....a monarque(saudi ararbia) that dosn't give its people freedom and waists there oil revenues.A country .us.. that provides all the support they need to keep it that way.(gotta keep that oil flowing).A monarque that allows its newspappers to print inflametory storys about israel and western influinces to get people pissed off about some thing other than there own government.Looking the other way while hate shcools pop up and paying them money to leave the monarque alone.How much support did our government give al qaeda even after the afgan war so they would continue to go after russain interests in the region.Did we help creat saddam hussans power or make it to easy for him to biuld an army back when we were happy he was fighting irack.Why do we still need ther oil....and on and on.

As for what you do with them after you catch these guys.What ever you do it should have an impact and im not talking about a blow to the head.If putting them in prison would be worse for them than dying and prove that were not animals than i say fine.Some how i dont think are guys are gonna bring them back alive and im not gonna ask any questions when that happens.You live by the sword you die by the sword.