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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:30 pm
by x3n
RAUM....I summon you, I'm lighting the bat-signal!....otherwise I'd just re-write my last post.
All right kids, I guess what i'm tryin to say is that the teachings of Christ, which in turn are much older...are infinitely more important than Bible stories, some of them were meant to drive a point home, some were...well, you know Hollywood?....how depending on the studio, a script will go through a couple of re-writes?, yeah.
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:22 am
by Aemeth
yea, and didnt they stick a spear in his side as well..opium aint helpin that lmao
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:38 am
by raum
they most certainly did stick a spear into his side,.. I will write that story up.
it was the spear that Phineas had made for Joshua when he toppled the walls of Jericho,. as had since then been the staff of the King of the Jews. Herod was in posession of it when he ordered the killing of male Jews, it was the Spear of the King of Israel.
It was carried by Gaius Cassius, who was almost blind, who was there on the authority of Pontius Pilate. enough of this.
It should suffice to say that it is crucial that Jeshua should die on the point of the spear of Joshua; especially to the history of Christianity.
Vertical,
raum
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:17 am
by raum
this is something i was looking for, and i finally found it, as i prepare my own work for transit across the country, for the next phase of my work.
there is a word the Caba Pir (Holy Flames, or Beni Elohim - Sons of God) have for what YShUO (Jesuha) did in Hell; that word is "iur'ehoh."
Examining this word is "I" "Ur" Ehoh", or "Be" "Light", and a variation of "Ehieh." It means " "(I am to) Become the source of Light."
It is pronounced ee-your-ehoh.
vertical,
raum
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:31 am
by AYHJA
^^
Now RAUM...
You know you gonna have to explain that post..!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:03 am
by raum
Ayhja,
what do I need to explain? lemme know, and it will help me make sure I answer the questions that may arise, k?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:32 pm
by Pete
So you are saying, Jesuha said he would be come the source of light, while he was in hell? Maybe he was stating his defeat of hell, as hell is the darkness, and by becoming light, the source of all light, therefore lightness, he would stand above it and defeat it.
And therefore become the bridge for God's people to cross over into Heaven.
Easter is the celebration of Jesus Christ's defeat over death. Not a morning of his mortal death. He was murdered by order of Pontius Pilate, and at midnight his spirit rose in a ball of light, as he had "become the source of light", due to his defeat of the darkness of the abyss of hell, which lay between the earth and Heaven. At Easter time in the Orthodox Christian church, the people announce "Christ has risen!" In fact priests say this whenever they greet someone, for up to 40 days after Easter Saturday.
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:58 am
by raum
Welcome timbo!,
ok, first of all Easter is an adopted holiday of the "Christians." The death of "Jesus" was not "ordered" or even approved by Pontius Pilate. It was Calaphas who swore the death of Jeshua Jehovasha Beni Joseph, and Herod who sanctioned it with his ensign of office, the spear used by "Longinus" to pierce the side of Jeshua.
Easter is not originally Christian, and it was originally a Friday, sacred to Venus/Astar. Its very name reveals its "Phoenician" roots, which entail it was a female fertility ritual... which resulted in the girls who had come of marrying age being paraded by the priestesses of Ishtar before potential grooms. The symbolism is in intact and posthumously "infused" into the text of the Bible to support the Greek custom, in the form of "Good Friday",which had been adopted by the Samothracians, and passed from the Phoenicians. Personally, I have more respect for easter egg hunts and marshmallow peeps than people who try to tie "Holy Days" to a calendar that is not in the sky above them. but in the company of people I do try to be respectful... when people call Christmas "Jesus's Birthday" and other such nonsense. His birth is clearly indicated as being in the time between spring and summer.
Second, no. that is not what iur'ehoh is, it is not a statement.
"I am to become the light" is just a root translation,... Long story short,.. we know there is a hidden language, on the other side of some of the most ancient hebrew we can find.. This language gets things to "notice you."
This is what he did. If i had to define it, I would say, he did to his Soul in hell what he did to his body on earth; that he may be free of them both, ansd become "Pure Spirit." He did not go to "whoop ass in hell." I hate that mentality, it shows how little is known of his real work. He voluntarily entered an equally sacred alchemical furnace, that has its place within the plan of god for humanity, by which the impurities are completely burned away.
He subjected himself to the fury of gehenna, a hell beyond hells, and in that pit found ihtin himself an even greater peace. A peace so transcendant that he could walk unhindered out of that place. There was not yet anything that could daunt him. What new treasure did hell have for him it had saved should he try to leave? He conquered every fear, every punishment, every aspect of humanity that we endure,.. on its own terms...
He became the resurrection of the same Elohim that was "exhausted" on its Cross after the Creation of the Universe. For the whole "breath of life" which spoke the words of the creation of the universe was the same as that breath within one man's breast that spoke, "I am the way and the light." but that doesn't mean he became a Zombie king, like the bible says,.. walking around and saying "stick your finger in the hole in my hand!" jeez...
The Phoenix took to flight from the ashes of the phoenix...and became the Master Adept... and his story has never been and never will be understood just by being read; it must be lived.
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raum
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:18 pm
by Pete
Well no matter what, it seems everyone who believes/thinks about Jesus Christ, thinks he is phenomenal, a really great guy.
When you said he found in himself a greater peace, that reminded me of something I saw about the origin of Buddha.
P.S. Thanks for the welcome!
Although I don't strictly adhere to what the Bible says, I grew up going to church, and when they spoke English I understood what they said, so that's what I learnt.