Vice Presidential Debate 2008

[Sir Jig-A-Lot]

back at'cha.

Ube gets that way.. ;)

[AYHJA]

Doesn't Palin have more experience than Obama? Why does Obama get a pass but not Palin when dealing with the amount of experience between the two?

The experience thing is wack that's why, and Obama didn't get a pass...Its kinda like when you first got here, LG was trying to talk shit to you cause he'd been here longer...What mattered to me and everyone else is that you were by far the better poster... :D

Besides, they tried to fling shit at him in the primary and it backfired horribly...And most of the time, experience in itself counts for very little...Dubya ran a state with 23 million more people in it than Alaska, and look how he fared...

[Bastard Brigade]

Doesn't Palin have more experience than Obama? Why does Obama get a pass but not Palin when dealing with the amount of experience between the two?

Obama makes up for his lack of experience with his education and intelligence. He speaks about foreign countries and leaders as if he's been educated on the issues an understands them. I can believe Obama understands the difference between Kurds and Arabs; between Arabs and Persians; between Islamists and Nationalists; between Hamas and Fatah; between Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah.

When Palin speaks, you get an uneasy feeling that her knowledge of complex geopolitical issues is limited. She repeats what she's been told, but I can tell she doesn't have a solid grasp on the issues like Joe Biden does. When Palin was criticizing Obama for saying he would sit down with the leader of Iran without preconditions, she kept bring up Ahmadinejad, until Joe Biden responded that Ahmadinejad doesn't rule in Iran. You can't convince me she knew Iran was ruled by the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Couple that with her espoused religious beliefs that God has a grand plan for good; you have a foreign policy far too close to George W. Bush.

I believe that God wants everybody to be free. That's what I believe. And that's one part of my foreign policy. In Afghanistan I believe that the freedom there is a gift from the Almighty. And I can't tell you how encouraged I am to see freedom on the march. And so my principles that I make decisions on are a part of me.

Obama's inexperience is no joke, but, should he win, hopefully he will surround himself with the best people that will help him make sound decisions.

I fear under McCain/Palin you will see more influence of the religious zealots and their neo-conservative allies with doctrines of preemptive war and God's grand plan. Hasn't eight years of this fiasco been enough? Obama may be a risk, but he's looking more and more like a risk worth taking.

[Sir Jig-A-Lot]

Aptly put post.

[AYHJA]

Obama may be a risk, but he's looking more and more like a risk worth taking.

Man, that is all I am saying...Period, end of story...Obama may not get into office and do shit...But that is nowhere NEAR as certain a fate as what we would have under McCain/Palin...

[raum]

Obama may be a risk, but he's looking more and more like a risk worth taking.

Man, that is all I am saying...Period, end of story...Obama may not get into office and do shit...But that is nowhere NEAR as certain a fate as what we would have under McCain/Palin...

That is exactly the picture the media has been painting and Obama has been pushing... but it is just not true.

[AYHJA]

And why not..?

A question I posed in another thread has still gone unanswered...Feel free to include bullshit or propaganda, but give me a single reason why I would even consider voting for a McCain Palin ticket...For example...Barak Obama's tax plan says that it will give me 8x's much of a tax break than John McCain's...Barak Obama has 2 young girls, one of them is the same age as my own son...His concerns as a father a likely to be closer to mine...Barak Obama is extremely intelligent, articulate, and pretty clean for a politician...About the most critical decision of our lifetime, the war, Barak Obama was the only one to stand up and say no...

Just a few reasons similar to those, to help those here if nowhere else, see why you don't see McCain the way we do...

[blixa]

...About the most critical decision of our lifetime, the war, Barak Obama was the only one to stand up and say no....

I still get stuck back at this and see it as a great example of how the man can make the right decision...

There was still plenty of time to contain uncle Saddam

What a massive waste of time, money and lives, Iraq has been. Foreseeing that like Obama did, was what you need in the whitehouse.

Plain and simple.

No need for over analyzing.

[raum]

And why not..?

A question I posed in another thread has still gone unanswered...Feel free to include bullshit or propaganda, but give me a single reason why I would even consider voting for a McCain Palin ticket...

Because NOTHING Obama ever did was on budget, on time, and successful. His promises are socialist promises. You ever see what happens when Socialists get in power? I think he is a good idealist, and HONESTLY think in four years he would be grounded enough to run. Not yet; he still bears FAR too much of the Socialism that inspired him to be a politician and he is riding a wave of activism that is full of so much corruption. i don't hate the idea of Socialism, just the reality that it will NEVER work.

For example...Barak Obama's tax plan says that it will give me 8x's much of a tax break than John McCain's...Barak Obama has 2 young girls, one of them is the same age as my own son...His concerns as a father a likely to be closer to mine...Barak Obama is extremely intelligent, articulate, and pretty clean for a politician...About the most critical decision of our lifetime, the war, Barak Obama was the only one to stand up and say no...

This is a plan that was devised by the geniuses behind the FNMA issue that is being used as a smoke screen now. And he did not "stand up and say no...

HE WASN'T IN CONGRESS FOR THE VOTE! Damn, stop treating this like some type of "he was the only one" bullshit. Obama is not the Golden Child. He was chosen to achieve a socialist agenda. In CONTRAST, Ron Paul DID vote no on the war in Iraq, and he wasn't the only one.

He is a mediocre politician at best riding a wave of hype for people you have probably never heard of. He probably is intelligent about some things, but is a poor judge of character and had BAD business sense. He was chosen by Carl Davidson to head Bill Ayer's board, which squandered 54 million dollars in grants - and showed no economic progress as it promoted leftist ideals. That misuse of grants was his strongest qualification for Senate, except his "meet-n-greet' at Ayer's home, where Ayers announced he was to be Alice Palmer's successor. Then, he joined The New Party for some election fusion magic and ended up in State Senate. He *might* have abandoned the more extreme of those ideas, but it is too risky to guess.

Just a few reasons similar to those, to help those here if nowhere else, see why you don't see McCain the way we do...

[/quote]

I don't give a damn who you vote for; but I DISPISE delusion. Do the math...

Of the 50 major legislative bills sent to President Bush since January 2005 when Obama came to Congress, neither has voted with Bush. The president doesn't VOTE, he signs into bills proposed and voted on by Congress, or vetoes them if he chooses:

Sen. Obama supported legislation signed by President Bush 19 times.

Sen. McCain supported legislation signed by President Bush 17 times.

Obama voted along party lines 97% of the time. what does that tell you?

THESE ARE ALL VOTING AND ON Liberal DEMOCRATIC Legislative tenets. EVEN BUSH.


Ironic that obama protrays McCain as most consistently voting with Bush, since his entry in congress in 2005 OBAMA has been most in line with bush... and McCain has avoided more votes than Barack. It is a classic case of being the bastard you accuse others of being. Typical Fascist smear tactic. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

*edited to fix quote tags*

[blixa]

So between the 2....

who was opposed and who was for iraq?


lol

anyway the circus is at belmont uni and the monkeys are about to start throwing poop at each other


yay!