ADN

That's Ham, Shem, and Japheth, who Noah calls "Canaan" (like Cain), Fapper.

Canaan is a reference to his son's betrayal...

"Canaan" saw his dad Noah passed out in his cups (drunk) and naked, and told his brothers to come look at dad's wasted a$$! they grabbed their own cloak, walked backwards to noah collapsed in his tent, and thre the cloak over his body.

Ham and shem were blessed. Canaan was cursed and disowned.

This is the *just* validation for why the jews felt the animocity they showed to the canaanites... supposedly.

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QUOTE(trashtalkr)I really don't buy it. Sorry Raum...

I'm always ( :shock: ) when you don't "buy" something and then don't offer up any explanations, etc...That information, posted previously without the posts above seemed very possible, if not complete truth...

thx raum for the refreshing about that.

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I'm always (   :shock:      ) when you don't \"buy\" something and then don't offer up any explanations, etc...That information, posted previously without the posts above seemed very possible, if not complete truth...

I really don't have any explination for it. I just don't think blacks were made any differently then whites besides for skin color.

ok, but what does that belief have to do with the FACT that this medicine is ineffectual for Asians, Caucasians, and other genotypes, and is the MOST EFFECTIVE heart medicine there is for any race, but only in consideration to whites?

What about the apparent 26% of the population of Eastern Europe that is estimated to be IMMUNE to AIDS and HIV? (most of which are in poland, for some reason).

the differences are not just skin deep, but the hate is.

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Interesting debate (however lengthy, it's 90 minutes long) if you care to hear it. This was between Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, and Tim Wise, "anti-racism"activist. This debate went on in May 11.

http://www.amren.com/interviews/timwisedebate.mp3

I read a whole topic, and it was - sorry for the word - interesting for me. I live in Hungary, Europe, but i read a lot about a racism in US.

My european experience are:

I think here exist the racism also, but not so strong like in the US. Here are neo-nazis also, and a lot of group like the KKK, but here aren't so many african (means black), so they have a different enemy. They hate jews, gipsys and the people of other country, and everybody who go against racism. This people making "only" demonstration for theirs opinion, violance is on a rare occasion. But this is as dangerous as the physical violance.

Thanks for yours attention.

(sorry for my bad english)

messor, welcome here from Hungary a beautiful country with an amazing culture, excellent food and hot women and a powerful history!

I know racism exists there as well, but I was given to the fact that in Hungary, there is more religious prejudice, which is just as bad. Wouldn't you agree?

Also, I might disagree with derogatory racism (hopefully everyone here does), and yet acknowledge there are distinctions that make each ethnic branch of the human race and each tradition individually beautiful and distinct. Each may also have its shortcomings, but we, as a whole on this planet, have barely began to acknowledge "race" as a viable factor for anything but hatred and subjugation.

also, speaking of skins. I was a skin-head once...for about 8 months, when I got out the Navy. Those I belonged to are called SHARP's - Skins Against Racial Prejudice. We were National Autocratists, who believe a Nation of Humankind that emerges has the ultimate responsibility to those included in its boundaries, and yet should exist in benevolence and dominance of the actions of any person, even those in its hierarchy. Nationalists, but not Socialists. An extension of Alexander the Great's Model for society...not nazi Germany.

Those countries that do not take care of their own people and land are doomed to perish... I DO believe that.

I am too old to wear jack boots every day, now. and it didn't really help our political agenda to meet on the battlegrounds of the other skins,.. and we were never trusted anywhere. I couldn't get a job and had to constantly explain to people that I WAS NOT A RACIST OR A NAZI. Besides, i don't like most of their music and I don't like to fight anymore. Why defend a sub-culture you don't fit in?

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I know racism exists there as well, but I was given to the fact that in Hungary, there is more religious prejudice, which is just as bad.  Wouldn't you agree?
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raum

Yes, you're right. There is some religious prejudice, which is the base of racism against non-christian. Because this is a racism also!

Religion is the cause of so much death and hatred....not so much in American or Europe anymore...but oh thats all it used to be. 100 years war....30 years war... (I took AP European History last year...so it's still somewhat fresh) It's the worst IMO.

But religious fueds are not racism. They are religious fueds.

You're white...but your Christian so you live...You're white...but protestant...so you die.