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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:48 am
by Logic
By Going to do it, I was referring to he is going to try to do it..

Sorry.
I don't think he is going to fill pac's shoes. Noone will (at least not any fo the current rappers)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:04 pm
by raum
There will never be a new Pac. The rap game has changed and there is no more room for someone to bring that kind of awareness to the genre of music. There may have been people who could have been to rap what pac was,.. and there were people who made contributions every bit as important,.. and alot of unsung influences on the man that never get due credit. but he did not leave a void, because he is not gone. Some folks in Oaktown and way beyond still bump Pac everyday. He put out a new albnum this wekk, somewhere...

50 Cent will take hip hop into a new sociological level, and it will permeate every aspect of life he can penetrate the market for. But he is made fo success, by Eminem. Tupac had no such person. Tupac took hip hop to a new scociological level as well; but also he was the first to properly demonstrate the philosophy of man's dilemma of being a spritual being in a carnal world. He was not the first rapper, but to many he was the Prometheus and the Phos Phoros; the fire bringer, the light bearer, the Lucem Ferro, or "Lucifer". Jay-Z never did this, though he remains a talented and immensely sucessful artist and a very powerful poet who has brought a new audience to rap. Everything he did has been done before, to great sucess. The formula he used is tried and true.

Eminem did the utmost his depictions of drug and bitter emotion induced violence in contrast to his sensitive and vulnerable family drama, crowned by a father's love he never felt. He brought to words what most of us tried to hide in the labyrinth of our own complicated lives. He made of himself a suffering servant to his crowds, and media images, and his torrid relationship with Kim,.. and a warrior king speaking for the generations of disposed youth who had no gang activity, or inclusion in the culture emulated in music they appreciated; crowned by his own firm conviction that his lovely daughter is worth the fucked-up bitch who brought her into this world; and aside from that he is unphased by women. Would that we all only had one woman to worry about and our mother and daughter.

This trio forms in his mythology forms the modern Mother, Maiden, Crone. and we all see that in Haley, he has all hope that the change happens, and he finds a woman who he can trust.

Marshall, Eminem, Haley, Kim, Debbie... that is his pentagram. the illusive void at its center is his father, and if you look in the center of the pentagram, you will see there is room for an inverted one, and that is where nestled is Slim Shady, his antithesis, who is essentially his combined projections on his absent father and the shadow of his ego which was continually developing in stages of repression, denial, and self-destructive behavior. Eventually he learned to embody both, and made a lot of money doin what he loved, because he effectively channeled his shadow, and now he pays the price, and has to learn to control the Shadow, lest it destroy the temple he compelled it to create for him.

That's the story of Solomon, and this time, from the sound of his new song "When I'm gone", sounds like it might have a better ending this time. I hope so.

Let's get down to business. that is a song that has got to be one of my favorites. Hell-yeahhhh!

vertical,
raum

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:41 pm
by AYHJA
That was certainly a different take on things....

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:46 pm
by raum
would you expect any less from me? /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:51 pm
by AYHJA
CDR...No...Such spins are your well earned trademark...Always vertical...Shit...That should be the new AF slogan...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:45 pm
by Lost Ghost
Yeah...I agree with what raum said....I was thinking it.....

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:35 pm
by raum
actually, LG, you had already indicated it regarding fiddy. I just embellished on the point YOU made that 50 is following the "shit slide so easy cause my ass so greasy" rap-mogul formula from the line-up on the East Coast. He just another New York Giant, even when he in Philly. He got a powerful lineage, that makes for his immediate success.

Tupac had a shitty tattoo and a blunt and a wet rag he was scrawling notes on while he was passin out in the studio after dropping so many lines no one could keep the beats comin. fiddy couldn't do that if he tried.

and for the record,..

I realized last night, watching Johnson family reunion. I visually confused Vanessa Williams with vivica fox... which makes Ty's comment seem alot more sensible. cause Vanessa Williams is DAMN fine for her age, and vivica ain't nearly 50% of all that, once I googled her and found the kill bill chick.

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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:07 am
by AYHJA
Man, I'd fucking step all over Vivica Fox to get to Vanessa Williams...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:42 pm
by Habib
Well, I HATE 50 Cent, sorry guys I just have to say it. Even though apparently the owner of the site, and his partner hates him, I don't care, I HATE him, he's wack as a rapper, his music is just shit...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:11 pm
by raum
50 has one thing going for him, JMJ, and I would love to have seen what he would be like had he actually been on with JMJ. JMJ would have made him something worth listening to.

I think Jam Master Jay saw something in him, and that was poorly developed and exploited in his Shady and G-Unit efforts. I think his current production efforts lack the vision that inspired JMJ, and he lacks the substance to make his success an honor, and make it count for something. There are days I truly regret Dre ever gave him his own label. As it is, Shady, G-unit, and the whole mess is going awry fast.

As it is, he recieved his success prematurely, and has almost let it completely atrophy through repetition and unoriginality.

but, all that aside, if you can't imitate 50 and pimp walk at cha girl, and she actually tells you are crazy, while she holds you tight, you need to get that Kryptonite out cha pocket.

and ALL that aside, he is a little BITCH for cutting off DJ Green Lantern off the Shady Path. Now, he went to Russel Simmons, so at least the evil genius got somewhere to scheme.

In the Darkest Night,
raum