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QUOTEAnd since I know you like cross sport references, this is like Kobe Bryant averaging 22 points and having 4 teammates in double figures, rather than him averaging 44, and having no teammates with double figures...Obviously, you should see the advantage of such diversity...

I have to throw a flag on that one. Kobe's teammates don't all play the same position as he does, and I doubt that the Steelers ever put four running backs on the field simultaneously. It's not a good analogy. In fact, any suggestion that the Steelers are more balanced or diverse than Seattle is just silly. The Steelers do a few things very, very well. That might be enough to win XL, but I doubt it.

A round table of runningbacks might illustrate diversity, but it could also indicate injuries, inconsistency or a tendency toward fatigue.

...We're talking about the running game in relation to the game....as in....one running back....against the defense......No running back on the Steelers is above 10th in either TD's or Yards.....so regardless of how they do as a team over the season...which would be putting all them together..... is irrelevant to how they'll do on sunday.

SA better than both Willie Parker and Bettis's yards...and has over double the TD's....


so SA is WAY better than either Willie Parker or Bettis.....whereas their defense...3rd and 5th....are very comparable...


If Willie Parker and Bettis could combine and make one running back with their stats added...even then they aren't as good as SA....

so saying they have a better rushing game than the Steelers is based on statistics that are irrelevant...


It'd be like saying Warrick Dunn is better than SA becuase the Falcons have the most rushing yards......well that takes into account Vick's running yards.....and Pit's rushing numbers take into account like 6 running backs....

QUOTE(ike90)I have to throw a flag on that one. Kobe's teammates don't all play the same position as he does, and I doubt that the Steelers ever put four running backs on the field simultaneously. It's not a good analogy. In fact, any suggestion that the Steelers are more balanced or diverse than Seattle is just silly. The Steelers do a few things very, very well. That might be enough to win XL, but I doubt it.

A round table of runningbacks might illustrate diversity, but it could also indicate injuries, inconsistency or a tendency toward fatigue.

The fact that they don't play the same position is irrelevant, the point is that if you can score in the paint, on the perimeter, or otherwise, you are less likely to be completely shut down...If you are playing a team and have no clue how they are going to attack you, how is that not an advantage..? If you want an example of what I'm talking about, as it pertains to basketball, analyze any recent Pistons team...They can give it to you any way you want...And gave it to the best two players in the league in the form of a sweep when they ran across it...No one player on Detroit could stop Shaq, and no one team could stop Kobe, but it happened, didn't it..?

But back to football...

You pound it with Bettis, and speed it with Parker...Does that somehow NOT make you a more diverse and effective team..? History says so...Me too...How is it that you neglect the notion of a balanced, diverse attack..? Especially when they have beat the best teams in the league...On the road...To do it...Not to mention that in these playoffs, Ben Roth has been lights out..? No defense in the 2006 playoffs is playing faster than the Steelers...Or racking up more picks and sacks...

You ask me, and I'll tell you that the Seahawks have the 1999 Atlanta Falcons team...They had Jamaal Anderson...The dirty bird...Record breaking running back...Had more carries in the HISTORY of any back in the NFL...Shit, almost 2000 yards if not more...

And got they one dimensional ass beat down by the Broncos...

Now that's a classic instance of doing one thing very well, and not having the gas to finish...The Steelers have not done what everyone has expected them to do...They just have won the games...Yes, the they do a few things very well (Seahawks are no different, right), and it got them to the Superbowl playing and beating the league's best teams, but its not enough to get them over the top, eh..?

You a betting man, ike..? /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Nice rant, Ay, but you know not of what you write.

Seattle's defense has five takeaways in two games. Pittsburgh has six in three games. Do you want to rethink that rate?

The idea that Seattle is "one-dimensional" is too preposterous to bother arguing. Of the Seahawks 727 yards of offense in two games, 418 have come through passing, and 309 through rushing. And let's not forget that Alexander hardly played against the Skins.

I think it might just come down to Hasselbeck's mobility.

I'll wager you one 200-word suck up certifying the unabashed triumph and genius of the other, posted right here on the Sports Forum no later than February 10th, that "Lordy Lordy, the Hawks shall win Forty."

You pound it with Bettis, and speed it with Parker...Does that somehow NOT make you a more diverse and effective team..? History says so...Me too...How is it that you neglect the notion of a balanced, diverse attack..? Especially when they have beat the best teams in the league


it makes you less effective because one pounds the balls...and one is a speed back....you know what you're gonna get from those two and theres not much else to it....SA can pound...and run around you....he's more dangerous coming out of the backfield becasue theres no telling which way he'll be coming at you.... Bettis wont be throwing juke moves....and Parker wont be trucking linebackers.... If you get both virtues in the same player....I'll take that any day...

the best teams in the league? I have confidense that the Seahawks could give it to the Bengals.... they already beat the Colts....and who knows how they'd fair against the Broncos...... I think the Seahawks are not in any means a step down from the Broncos as far as compeition and skill.....they're possibily a step up....but thats not the point....

The Seahawks deserve just as much credit going into the Superbowl as the Steelers....They've been getting it done all year...

Colts got it done all year...And...They at home...Going into the playoffs, they did have the best record in the entire NFL, right..?

And SA is not a pound 'em type back LG, what are you talking about..? The man just learned to run between the tackles this year...He is by no means one of the more physical backs in the league...He is not all finesse, in fact, a bit of both, but lets not over do it here...SA is not a back that wears down defenses...He makes good runs, and follows his blocks very well...But he ain't runnin' kids over now...Been watchin' the dude since he was at Alabama...He has exceptional balance, and is patient...

it makes you less effective

And I guess I'm the only one in the forum that sees how a play fake on 3rd and short with Bettis in the game can murk a squad...I mean, you got Bettis in the game, you better contain, or you get killed right..? Does 8 in the box mean 1 on 1, or am I missing something..? Who can cover Hines Ward 1 on 1..? Or, when Bettis is in the game on 3rd and short, we stay in the nickle..? That how it works..? How is it less effective when you HAVE to respect a man, and thus open your play making capabilities..?

Isn't this the same conversation we had a while ago..? I wish somebody will explain to me how having options is a bad thing...And lets not act like Jerome Bettis isn't one of top NFL rushers in the history of the NFL, like he don't know how to get it done...Like...He not gonna step up during the biggest game of his life...Shit, I wouldn't be shocked if he has a career game...

What does Jerome Bettis being one of the top NFL rushers have to do with how he'll play in probably the last game of his career....the man's been playing forever and he isn't as good today as he was years ago, he's still a capable back... but I wont be surpised if Willie gets more touches

It's less effective because when he's in the game on 3rd and short...either they're gonna run it right up the middle...or try and do a trick with a pass....Bettis isnt gonna be running any screens or sweeps......Having options is nice....but having multiple options in the same player is better because theres no telling what will happen and where he'll go.

I know I'm underestimating the playcalling of the Steelers....but if you have a running back for power purposes and a running back for speed purposes...the defense has an easier job of figuring out what's coming at them... Does it make it easier to stop? Maybe.....but with one do-it-all type guy in your backfield...he's harder to contain. I would be completely shocked if he had a career game....he's getting old man.....I'd be proud and happy if he did...but I personally don't see it happening. I think they'll use Parker more often anyway.


I think we're in for a close game....and since I've been forced into the roll of being the only one to show the Seahawks some love....now I'm not rooting for either team...I just wanna see some good football and commericals...

LoL...Indeed...This is going to be a phenomenal game...I got Bettis having the best, or the absolute worst day of his career...

But...When does having 15 catches on the year equal "do it all type guy" if you're referring to SA..? Or were you just speaking in general..?

ROTFLMAO!!! OMG raum... that was sooooo wrong. But funny as hell!