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What does a soul do for you, he asks...Damn, I don't know how you guys are reading the bible, like almost word for word, going to church I assume, and then missing the point of everything...Break down says:

Adam wasn't shit but dust before he had life blown into him...

When you die, you return to the dust...

You got another name for what is missing when you die, or am I missing something..?

Is life not your God given gift..? That's straight from the bible kids, nothing complicated about that...What do you mean what's the point..?

Man, you really like trashing the Bible don't you. Don't get why....

Anyway, yes life is our God-given gift, but he also gave us other gifts to go along with. Everyone has a special gift-something that you enjoy (AYHJA, yours is prolly farm-lovin).

When you die, it's your physical body dying. It's your soul/spirit that lives on. The point I'm trying to get at (this being the reincarnation thread) is that you won't return to this earth. You've died here....you move on to something better (or worse if hell). You won't return here as anyone else.

the word "soul" no where appears in the Bible.

It is a elementary idea,.. and well disproven.

Look at this model of Consciousness, however, that IS the basis of the Bible in relation to man.

The "Guph" (not the gulf) - the composite "darkness" in which all potential life exists,.. as in the darkness of the fertile earth.

The "Nephesh" - the "animal instinct" of all organisms to "involuntarily" struggle for their own continued existence. (The Fighting Instince of the living to stay alive. Also, called the Animal Consciousness.

The "Ruach" - Which is the composite nature of mankind to "partition" knowledge,.. to form the most favorable perceptions to "justify actions" and "logically excuse" undesirable modes of action. It is the systematic logical "rational mind"

The "Neschamah" - which answers to The Source of the Primal Swirlings of all Life, symbolized by the Swastika (Rashiith Ha-Galgalim). This is "the soul," or perception of Self as Infinite Divinity.

The "Yechidah" - The Personified Deific nature found at the end of the journey of searching for God. This is the "Spirit", or perception of Other as Infinite Divinity.

Beyond all that, all on earth must go through the "Path of Return" even through the Rashith Ha-Galgalim.) These are the pentagram of the nature of man. The Yeshidah, is an achievable state of mind only after death, and only for ha-Meshiachim, or "the annointed ones."


Animals, have a nephesh, but not a ruach. Incidentally, The word for wind is Ruach, the word for air is Neshamah, and the word for "Breath" is Yechidah.

So, the coming in of the Yechidah ha-Adonai (The Breath of the Lord), forms the Neshamah (Sacred Air which fills our lungs), enabling us to give voice to our praises (the true function of the Ruach) - which rises us above the base animal nature of man as wild beast (The Nephesh), who in his infancy can do nought but wail as as an alien even to his own race (Guph).

Thus, it is true, in the beginning was the word.

does this help?

vertical,
raum

QUOTE(trashtalkr)Man, you really like trashing the Bible don't you. Don't get why....

Anyway, yes life is our God-given gift, but he also gave us other gifts to go along with. Everyone has a special gift-something that you enjoy (AYHJA, yours is prolly farm-lovin).  

When you die, it's your physical body dying. It's your soul/spirit that lives on. The point I'm trying to get at (this being the reincarnation thread) is that you won't return to this earth. You've died here....you move on to something better (or worse if hell). You won't return here as anyone else.

CDR..!!

Man, that is NOT trashing the bible..! (And farm lovin'...Heh, well, you can't even imagine...) That's a big-UP to the good book..! But while your belief may be consistent, your words are not...

You say animals don't have soul (I use that to mean life force, what RAUM calls "Yechidah ha-Adonai") but then you roll out to say, "When you die, it is your physical body dying. It's your soul/spirity that lives on."

Like...Um...Don't you see how that makes sense to what I'm trying to say..? If it PERSISTS, then it EXISTS...Since your "soul" was previously contained in a temple that can't contain it any more...DOESN'T IT BECOME PART OF SOMETHING ELSE..??? Didn't I say that my belief was that if you're a good boy, read all your books, do all of your work, and strive to do what it is you're here to do...Your essence has purpose..? Eh, Yo repitan, energy cannont be created nor destroyed...

Being able to come back consciously as something/someone else shouldn't just be something EVERYBODY could do...That's a fucking awesome priveledge, don't you think...?

Still not makin' no sense..?

Raum, please elaborate on the Guph..