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Kumicho wrote:I liked McCain's speech last night...It was classy, and what I would have expected from a man like him...Sort of shocked to hear that exact same speech on behind me while him and Gov Palin (who is also repeating her VP speech) are in Wisconsin...I wonder if she realizes that some will feel her 'community organizer' crack aimed at Barak is probably not so funny to middle class folk...They need to tap her on the shoulder on that one...There was a guy in the stands with a 'McCain hates Vets' poster, and somebody else who had to be escorted out of the building...Racy stuff man, almost too hot for TV...And magically, McCain's speech moved his entire platform from experience to reform...Sounds like that whole 'change' thing the Dems dreamed up is working good enough alright...

Um, fact check Obama voted in line with the Democratics Party almost 100% of the time.

McCain voted in line with Bush alot, but often against party opinion and position. Neither man is totally about "change" and I assure you what we get is a hybrid of both of their platforms. Every trend speaks to pressure off American families.

GWB is "Ra the Weak." It will certainly, as always, be a "dEath" of the king leading to the rebirth of the nation. GWB will be considered a president of impact, and some of the good that comes is due to his executive authority, regardless of who is in office.

Just like Obama says he will leave the budget without debt, not true. He will leave it with a plan longer than even two terms that would balance, just like Clinton. But EVERY president is obligated to leave with a projected balanced budget. It's part of the job. Carter was the only one who couldn't.

The real key to American prosperity is State's Rights!!!! I think the only person who gets that in the general election is a governor of ability. Sarah Palin *appears* to be a woman of ability, and a governor.

The question is what team can get the most done. Both are *seemingly* good, but imperfect, men among men and a woman of a calibur that speaks of equality not as a ideal, but a reality.

Honestly, either of these men are really going to do about the same thing. And our economy will bloom, and whoever will take credit. and also not meet all obligations.

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raum wrote:Today, in a general election, McCain would win.

CNN's polls show that JoBama is ahead of McCain in Electoral votes...



Factcheck is they are tied 42-42 with exepcted bounce from McCain of another 8 points. That is not CNN... which is crap.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/ ... index.html

I'd reward work by providing an income tax cut of up to $500 per person -- or $1,000 for each working family -- to offset the payroll tax that they're already paying.

Bastard Brigade wrote:I'm curious to know when McCain/Palin are going to start campaigning on their plans for the future of America. Obama is giving specifics on his plans that people can look at and assess.

raum wrote:You mean like these?

raum wrote:...his wife worked...on the board of directors from a subsidiary for Wal-Mart that has killed health benefits, wages, and is under investigation for denying people overtime wages, and still has no mention of its employees in its mission statement. Of course, when people found that out, she quit because of time issues.

..was her getting out of the sweatshop business part of his plan for "change?

Bastard Brigade wrote:

raum wrote:You mean like these?

No. You missed my point. "You can find details on the internet, but telling people to google your economic plan is not campaigning." How do you know anything online is from McCain? I would like to hear it from his own mouth so I know this is his plan and his ideas and he knows what he's talking about. The quote from Obama is from his own mouth.

"John McCain's policies will increase the value of the dollar and thus reduce the price of oil."

Sounds great. How will he do it?

"should be accompanied by reforms" --- What specific reforms?

"promote greater transparency and accountability" --- How? What's the plan? What does McCain propose that will promote greater transparency? New federal regulations? What are they?

This is were McCain needs to get specific on the campaign trail and compare his plans to Obama's.

If Obama says America is a great country but he will make it even greater, that sounds nice, but it's a whole lotta nuthin'. It will garner applause but it doesn't tell you anything. Look past the meaningless stage shows for real answers or don't give a shit and vote for who Oprah tells you to or because Palin looks like Tina Fey. You'll get the government you deserve.

raum wrote: This is where American's need to stop sucking on CNN's nipples or helping mtv rock the vote and get back to actually the reading the drafts of their candidate's policies! They will see that much of what spin they see in the limelight is razzle dazzle and softspeak. even from Obama.