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The reason I would pick Shaq as my guy to build a team around is based on the following reasons:

1. He is a team first player and could give a shit if he leads the league in scoring average.

2. He's 7 feet tall, 300 pounds.....and can't be shut down by anyone in the league.

3. He's never been accused of rape and totally fucked up a team destined for greatness.

4. He's not Kobe Bryant.

Now, I'll admit that none of these are good enough reasons to convince anyone that Shaq is a guy that you should build around
and that's not the point I was trying to make.

What I was getting at was why I didn't think Kobe was the "best" in the league and I'll stand by it.

IMO the biggest thrill he got the night he scored 81 was not that he won the game, it was that he was the leading story on SportsCenter.....call be a pesimist but thats my feeling.


You said:

"and since you love your team basketball.....if you're building a team....and you had one player to build your team around....I'm
assuming you'd want Rip Hamilton...or a nice team player to fit in your unselfish scheme......Kobe..LeBron..KG...none of those
one-man-shows going on would be a logical or smart pick right?"

Don't bring KG and LeBron into the conversation as I gave you my reasons as to why I didn't like Kobe...LeBron and KG both have the
quality I like in a player....someone that would rather win than lead the league in scoring. They just happen to care about both.

I don't know basketball nearly as well as you do and really don't care to but I will tell you that not to long ago, players were
more concerned with winning instead of how many endorsements they have. That's my problem and is the sole reason I tend to not
watch basketball much.....to me the players are just too self centered.


*and just for the record.....I'd take Rip and his teams record over Kobe and his 45 ppg average ANY day of the week.

I don't think all the blame can be placed on Kobe. It seems to me that no one on the Lakers wants to step up, so he's forced to carry the team.

I mean, look at the Raptors. Half the team is filled with rookies; the best player they have is Bosh... but at least some of the guys are willing to step up. Calderon looks like a retard out on the court with the way he handles the ball sometimes, but at least he's trying.

Same with Villanueva; he's really stepping up, too. Kid knocked down an insane amount of 3s the other night.

I don't see anyone really trying on the Lakers... at least that's the way I see it watching the games.

So wait....you claim Kobe's not the best player in the league, but instead of actually giving me a good answer as to why he's not...or offering someone who is better...you spout off at the mouth about rape charges?

But you call me an arrogant prick who doesn't know what he's talking about?

If you don't know about basketball...thats fine....but offering up some bullshit story about rape charges only proves your ignorance in this thread and you're flat out hypocracy towards me.

I spoke my mind, and probably threw in a lot of bullshit about the Rose Bowl...and you carry it around on your shoulder and find any excuse to throw it in my face....but when you're put up to the challange of naming me someone who would take the crown of Best Player in the NBA away from Kobe...you tell me Shaq....then when asked to explain why...you leave the thread for 2 weeks...and come back with an opinionated list of bullshit like that and still have the nerve to throw my name around like I don't know anything?

For all the shit you constantly talk about how I'm so inexperienced and I don't know shit and you're so awesome because you're older than me....you really failed in proving that in this thread..and came away looking like an asshole. Way to really hammer home your point.


Now feel free to further ruin this thread by saying something sarcastic...or pretending to be me and put quotes around something you type. I'm sure it'll make you feel better about yourself in the morning knowing you've done what you constantly brow beat me about doing...and offered nothing but a bunch of ignorant shit towards a topic that you pretended you knew about until you were actually faced with providing something logical.