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Damn. I just read that and relived that awful day all over again.

Are you kidding?

I went and nursed Jagermeister and laughed morbidly about how the nation mourned that accountants, bankers, govt. adminstators and lawyers actually got the horrible death that the American people had been openly wishing on them in jokes and comedy routines.

Then, I opened a yahoo voice chat that became a short term "talk radio" type thing.

I quit when I couldn't hold back the wave of idiots who tried to hack my computer or infect it with malware.

ROFL @ raum...

Ironic, but true what you say though...So, about the Loose Change video...That was some interesting points they brought up to say the least, and not as far fetched as I initially thought anyway...

QUOTE(raum)http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/above.html

this guy must have been a government plant, huh?

No...apparently he must have been in there, that's pretty much it.

That's some pretty hardcore shit...To be honest, when I saw the tower collapse, it looked like controlled demolition to me...And when I heard the pentagon story, it seemed to fit my bullshit analysis...

Like the Warren report all over again...

Although, they WERE in fact able to replicate teh magic bullet, so I'm gonna reserve my judgement on this one...

What are some o fthe errors and things you noticed about the piece raum..?

Yo raum,

I heard on the radio that some government official admitted to knowing about the plans to attack the WTC and the Pentagon...Sup with that?

(sorry if this has already been addressed, I just looked thru the last two pages..)

I try to keep up, and keep going, so this is something i have only in the rear-view mirror.

but here, an inconsistency through shoddy research, from a link on that dieo site.

QUOTEWhat we propose to do, is to pretend that the entire 10,000 gallons of jet fuel was injected into just one floor of the World Trade Center, that the jet fuel burnt with the perfect quantity of oxygen, that no hot gases left this floor and that no heat escaped this floor by conduction. With these ideal assumptions (none of which were meet in reality) we will calculate the maximum temperature that this one floor could have reached. Of course, on that day, the real temperature rise of any floor due to the burning jet fuel, would have been considerably lower than the rise that we calculate, but this estimate will enable us to demonstrate that the "official" explanations are lies.

Then, this stupid "theoretical" model establishes based on the burning temperature of jet fuel and concrete, and based on the weight (WHERE HE NEVER calculated the weight of the plane in, much less the collapse that must ensue, it's not like a jet is only 20 feet tall feet tall" Furthermore, his calculation is that the fire never reached more than 600 degrees celsius, which is less than the 1537.7777778 degree Celsius (<>2800*F) combustor temperature of the engines at full throttle! This would literally cause the nickle copper pipes of the sprinkler system to the pint that the water in resevoir would explode in the pipes before it triggered the HSD senors. to say nothing of the explosive damage of the 30:1 compression rate of Jet fuel in the tank.

The plane hit the building hot enough to melt the struts like butter in a class D fire (not the Class A 600 Celsius fire) which collapsed some incalculable weight onto a unsupported structure, that is why it is visibly falling to the left.

As a nozzleman on a shipboard fire team, I have seen temperatures hot enough to melt the bones of your body, if you are unprotected. As a fire safety officer with current quals, I don't know much, other than a person who thinks a missile could do this is nuts.