My bowl predictions... not that i am any good at this....
Orange Bowl — No. 12 Cincinnati vs. No. 21 Virginia Tech
Defensive battle..... Leaves Cincinnati up by a field goal...
Cincinnati 17 - Virginia Tech 14
Rose Bowl — No. 5 USC vs. No. 6 Penn State
USC's kicker is going to bounce back and lift them to a 2 field goal margin of victory...
USC 30 - Penn State 24
Sugar Bowl — No. 4 Alabama vs. No. 7 Utah
My head tells me Alabama... but I'm going to go with my heart that tells me the Utes will be fired up by Saban's comments that the Utes are not a “real BCS” team... Utes by a field goal...and a miracle...
Utah 34 - Alabama 31
Fiesta Bowl - No. 3 Texas vs. No. 10 Ohio State
Both my heart and my head tell me McCoy and his longhorn team mates have something to prove... I almost feel sorry for Ohio State.
Texas 45, Ohio State 17
Championship — No. 1 Florida vs. No. 2 Oklahoma
I must admit I'm torn... like Ayhja, I'm a longhorn fan... so I have a hard time ever pulling for Oklahoma... so my heart and head say it depends. If Texas pulls off a big win and Oklahoma barely escapes with a small victory, the Longhorns could conceivably share a piece of the title by way of the AP poll....
Oklahoma 41 - Florida 37 (but I'll reverse that and pull for the gators if the Fiesta bowl is close... I'm just sayin'.... )
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Also, here's the closest thing I could imagine that would savor the football purists and create a BCS playoff...
Now, its not perfect, but in a sense, this is how it works...
We took the six BCS-conference champions and the six highest remaining teams from the final BCS rankings. Then we seeded all 12 teams solely according to their final BCS ranking. The top four teams (Oklahoma, Florida, Texas and Alabama) received a first-round bye.
http://snipurl.com/8oh26 [sportsillustrated_cnn_com]
I agree with everything except for the fact that they have Florida beating Texas...On a neutral site, no team in the country would beat Texas...And I don't have to remind everyone that they beat Oklahoma and their only loss came in a frenzied stadium in Lubbock on a last second play...Texas played 4 highly ranked teams back to back to back to back, nobody else did that...OU played more ranked teams, but they had a gap or two in there...Stoops talked shit about playing a weak out of conference schedule, he played them in Norman, he didn't step foot in the SEC, and as far as TCU goes, they're good, but we scheduled Ohio State two years in a row in 05 and 06, so...Whatever Bob..! I'm not so sure that OU could beat USC either, but I wouldn't be an honest or unbias fan if I didn't acknowledge that OU is playing well...For some reason USC just isn't as impressive as they've been in seasons past...
Now, its not perfect, but in a sense, this is how it works...
We took the six BCS-conference champions and the six highest remaining teams from the final BCS rankings. Then we seeded all 12 teams solely according to their final BCS ranking. The top four teams (Oklahoma, Florida, Texas and Alabama) received a first-round bye.
http://snipurl.com/8oh26 [sportsillustrated_cnn_com]
I agree with everything except for the fact that they have Florida beating Texas...On a neutral site, no team in the country would beat Texas...And I don't have to remind everyone that they beat Oklahoma and their only loss came in a frenzied stadium in Lubbock on a last second play...Texas played 4 highly ranked teams back to back to back to back, nobody else did that...OU played more ranked teams, but they had a gap or two in there...Stoops talked shit about playing a weak out of conference schedule, he played them in Norman, he didn't step foot in the SEC, and as far as TCU goes, they're good, but we scheduled Ohio State two years in a row in 05 and 06, so...Whatever Bob..! I'm not so sure that OU could beat USC either, but I wouldn't be an honest or unbias fan if I didn't acknowledge that OU is playing well...For some reason USC just isn't as impressive as they've been in seasons past...
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Man, I really wish CFB had a playoff system! The BCS sucks ass. A Florida/Texas game would definitely be a shootout and I could go either way on a win there, but if there was a playoff, I doubt it would be neutral field. They would probably do homefield advantage to the higher ranked team (except for the final game, maybe).
Both of those Final Four games would be great matchups. I'd love to see the relentless USC defense just rape Bradford up and down the field
Both of those Final Four games would be great matchups. I'd love to see the relentless USC defense just rape Bradford up and down the field
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So - I've been looking for a copy of the Sugar Bowl to download and share.
...but until I find it, you can always watch the UTES beat up on Alabama over at Hulu.com. Great site to watch just about anything for free.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/50859/allstat ... a?c=Sports
...but until I find it, you can always watch the UTES beat up on Alabama over at Hulu.com. Great site to watch just about anything for free.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/50859/allstat ... a?c=Sports
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Am I the only one here that thinks USC would have slaughtered Texas or Ohio state?
No way would 24 points be enough to beat them.
Same goes for the so called big game, I reckon they would stomp either of those teams; and I cant stand the prophylactic fuckers.
No way would 24 points be enough to beat them.
Same goes for the so called big game, I reckon they would stomp either of those teams; and I cant stand the prophylactic fuckers.
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Ohio State may have presented a different challenge to USC had they had Wells and Pryor had been the starter with that many games under his belt...USC would still have probably won, but the team Texas faced wasn't the team USC faced earlier in the year...
And USC had some great wins this year...But they also had some pretty "ehh" wins, and then that loss to the Beavers...Sure, they could win, but 'slaughter'..? I think not...Texas can beat you without running the ball and still passing crazy efficiently, so if they're running...It's the 2005 national championship all over again...Nobody in the country played a tougher stretch of games than Texas this year, fan (like I obviously am) or not, that must be respected...
And for what its worth, Oklahoma's only loss was to Texas...The rest of the games weren't even close, really...The sad shit is we will likely never know...
And USC had some great wins this year...But they also had some pretty "ehh" wins, and then that loss to the Beavers...Sure, they could win, but 'slaughter'..? I think not...Texas can beat you without running the ball and still passing crazy efficiently, so if they're running...It's the 2005 national championship all over again...Nobody in the country played a tougher stretch of games than Texas this year, fan (like I obviously am) or not, that must be respected...
And for what its worth, Oklahoma's only loss was to Texas...The rest of the games weren't even close, really...The sad shit is we will likely never know...
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I really couldn't say it any better than this.....
Life of Reilly
Oklahoma and Florida can battle for the BCS. But we've already crowned the true national champ.
by Rick Reilly
The Utes trampled Alabama to complete a perfect season. How are they not national champions?
Some gifts people give are pointless: Styling mousse to Dick Vitale. An all-you-can-eat card to Kate Moss. The BCS Championship given to Oklahoma or Florida.
It means nothing because the BCS has no credibility. Florida? Oklahoma? Who cares? Utah is the national champion.
The End. Roll credits.
Argue with this, please. I beg you. Find me anybody else that went undefeated. Thirteen-and-zero. Beat four ranked teams. Went to the Deep South and seal-clubbed Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. The same Alabama that was ranked No. 1 for five weeks. The same Alabama that went undefeated in the regular season. The same Alabama that Florida beat in order to get INTO the BCS Championship game in the first place.
Yeah, that's how it is now in the shameful, money-grubbing world of college football. If you're Florida and you beat Alabama, you get a seat in the title game. If you're Utah, you get a seat on your sofa.
Hey, remind me: What do they give out for one of those BCS things anyway? It's been so long since I cared. Something from Sears? This is the sixth year in the past 10 that the title has been in dispute under this cash-grab, fan-dis, monopoly that the BCS has created. Which is why the title game just doesn't matter anymore. It's like being named Miss Ogallala. Or Best Amish Electrician.
Just take a look at the teams that think they're worthy of being called national champs:
USC? Great year. Wonderful. Let's all go to SkyBar and celebrate. But it lost to Oregon State, a team Utah beat.
Texas? You think beating Ohio State by a nubby three points gets you the title? The Big Ten was 1-6 in bowl games! That's like pinning David Spade!
Florida and Oklahoma? They lost. Utah never did.
So that's it. Utah is the national champion. The Utes should probably have two now, actually. They went undefeated in 2004, too, and their coach still thinks they were the best team in the land. Smart fella named Urban Meyer. Coaches Florida now.
By the way, we're calling our title the "national" championship because it actually includes the whole nation—all 119 Division I schools—unlike the BCS, which includes 66. Yeah, the BCS somehow eliminated the middleman—the NCAA. The conferences these schools play in take their dump trucks full of cash straight from the TV networks and fairness can go suck a lemon.
Do me a favor. Call Ohio State president Gordon Gee and ask him why he won't support a playoff. He's one of the most powerful presidents in the NCAA. He could get it done. If he says anything other than, "We don't want to share the loot" then you know he's lying his bow tie off.
"This is not how we normally do things in America," says Utah president Michael Young. "In America, quality usually wins, not conspiracy. And there's a reason people usually enter into a conspiracy. It's money. You make money doing it. And those that are in on the conspiracy want to stay in and keep everybody else out."
Sure, BCS blowhards will hand you schlock about how the college football season is like a playoff, how it's an elimination tournament every week. Really? Well, how come Florida and Oklahoma weren't eliminated with their losses? Utah ran the table, beat everybody set in front of them, including Ala-damn-bama in no less than the Sugar Bowl, and gets the bagel.
Oh, by the way? It was Utah's eighth straight bowl win, the nation's longest streak. Among the losers during that run? Let's see USC, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, and now the legendary Houndstooth Hats.
"What else do we have to prove?" asks Utah's magical quarterback, Brian Johnson. Good question. He and the Utes essentially whipped Alabama at home. Handed Nick Saban a garlic necklace to wear the entire offseason. Stepped on his team's neck 21-0 in the first three possessions and never looked back. Let's see. Who was it that was losing to Alabama until nearly six minutes into the fourth quarter? Oh, yeah. Florida.
What, you want the Utes to win a spelling bee? Make a prize-winning souffle? Knock up Angelina Jolie? What?
It just slays me. It really does.
Call Myles Brand, president of the asleep-at-the-wheel NCAA, and ask him if he and his greedy presidents are going to stand in defiance of president-elect Barack Obama, who said again this week he wants a playoff and wants it yesterday.
Call Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner and BCS bully John Swofford and ask him what he's going to do if Obama starts asking the Justice Department to look into anti-trust violations against the BCS. The Utah attorney general has already launched an investigation into that very thing.
Ask him what he'll do if Obama asks the Department of Education to consider withholding federal funds from these schools that have entered into his secret club. You don't think playing in the title game means millions in general-fund donations for a school? That's as unfair as anything Title IX fought against.
Until all these people do the right thing, I'll be celebrating with the true national champions — the undefeated, untied Utah Utes. (Our new slogan: Utahk about a team!)
Lemonades for everybody!
Life of Reilly
Oklahoma and Florida can battle for the BCS. But we've already crowned the true national champ.
by Rick Reilly
The Utes trampled Alabama to complete a perfect season. How are they not national champions?
Some gifts people give are pointless: Styling mousse to Dick Vitale. An all-you-can-eat card to Kate Moss. The BCS Championship given to Oklahoma or Florida.
It means nothing because the BCS has no credibility. Florida? Oklahoma? Who cares? Utah is the national champion.
The End. Roll credits.
Argue with this, please. I beg you. Find me anybody else that went undefeated. Thirteen-and-zero. Beat four ranked teams. Went to the Deep South and seal-clubbed Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. The same Alabama that was ranked No. 1 for five weeks. The same Alabama that went undefeated in the regular season. The same Alabama that Florida beat in order to get INTO the BCS Championship game in the first place.
Yeah, that's how it is now in the shameful, money-grubbing world of college football. If you're Florida and you beat Alabama, you get a seat in the title game. If you're Utah, you get a seat on your sofa.
Hey, remind me: What do they give out for one of those BCS things anyway? It's been so long since I cared. Something from Sears? This is the sixth year in the past 10 that the title has been in dispute under this cash-grab, fan-dis, monopoly that the BCS has created. Which is why the title game just doesn't matter anymore. It's like being named Miss Ogallala. Or Best Amish Electrician.
Just take a look at the teams that think they're worthy of being called national champs:
USC? Great year. Wonderful. Let's all go to SkyBar and celebrate. But it lost to Oregon State, a team Utah beat.
Texas? You think beating Ohio State by a nubby three points gets you the title? The Big Ten was 1-6 in bowl games! That's like pinning David Spade!
Florida and Oklahoma? They lost. Utah never did.
So that's it. Utah is the national champion. The Utes should probably have two now, actually. They went undefeated in 2004, too, and their coach still thinks they were the best team in the land. Smart fella named Urban Meyer. Coaches Florida now.
By the way, we're calling our title the "national" championship because it actually includes the whole nation—all 119 Division I schools—unlike the BCS, which includes 66. Yeah, the BCS somehow eliminated the middleman—the NCAA. The conferences these schools play in take their dump trucks full of cash straight from the TV networks and fairness can go suck a lemon.
Do me a favor. Call Ohio State president Gordon Gee and ask him why he won't support a playoff. He's one of the most powerful presidents in the NCAA. He could get it done. If he says anything other than, "We don't want to share the loot" then you know he's lying his bow tie off.
"This is not how we normally do things in America," says Utah president Michael Young. "In America, quality usually wins, not conspiracy. And there's a reason people usually enter into a conspiracy. It's money. You make money doing it. And those that are in on the conspiracy want to stay in and keep everybody else out."
Sure, BCS blowhards will hand you schlock about how the college football season is like a playoff, how it's an elimination tournament every week. Really? Well, how come Florida and Oklahoma weren't eliminated with their losses? Utah ran the table, beat everybody set in front of them, including Ala-damn-bama in no less than the Sugar Bowl, and gets the bagel.
Oh, by the way? It was Utah's eighth straight bowl win, the nation's longest streak. Among the losers during that run? Let's see USC, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, and now the legendary Houndstooth Hats.
"What else do we have to prove?" asks Utah's magical quarterback, Brian Johnson. Good question. He and the Utes essentially whipped Alabama at home. Handed Nick Saban a garlic necklace to wear the entire offseason. Stepped on his team's neck 21-0 in the first three possessions and never looked back. Let's see. Who was it that was losing to Alabama until nearly six minutes into the fourth quarter? Oh, yeah. Florida.
What, you want the Utes to win a spelling bee? Make a prize-winning souffle? Knock up Angelina Jolie? What?
It just slays me. It really does.
Call Myles Brand, president of the asleep-at-the-wheel NCAA, and ask him if he and his greedy presidents are going to stand in defiance of president-elect Barack Obama, who said again this week he wants a playoff and wants it yesterday.
Call Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner and BCS bully John Swofford and ask him what he's going to do if Obama starts asking the Justice Department to look into anti-trust violations against the BCS. The Utah attorney general has already launched an investigation into that very thing.
Ask him what he'll do if Obama asks the Department of Education to consider withholding federal funds from these schools that have entered into his secret club. You don't think playing in the title game means millions in general-fund donations for a school? That's as unfair as anything Title IX fought against.
Until all these people do the right thing, I'll be celebrating with the true national champions — the undefeated, untied Utah Utes. (Our new slogan: Utahk about a team!)
Lemonades for everybody!
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You can do your own top 4 ranking here: http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsna ... #topOfList
Do me a favor, do the right thing.... and show my Utes some love.... =p~
Do me a favor, do the right thing.... and show my Utes some love.... =p~
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I am almost ashamed to be a college football fan today...
As a Texas fan, I feel double slighted...That's twice now where settling shit on the field meant nothing...We beat Oklahoma too, and lost on a LAST SECOND PLAY for our only loss of the season...Nothing against Florida either, they handled their business...But the fact that we have this problem in college football and nowhere else...It stings...I read people talking shit about my Horns not blowing out Ohio State; I can tell they don't know anything about sports...Ask Ole Miss if they give a shit that they beat Florida by 1 or 20...A win is a win...If they come up with a way to settle this shit on the field...The talk could be silenced...
I also root for USC and Utah...There is no argument that there are 4, maybe 5 teams that can be deemed worthy of National Champion...I find it most difficult to just be happy for the season my team had, when I know they beat a ton of great competition (more than everyone else) and didn't get to settle it on the field...
As a Texas fan, I feel double slighted...That's twice now where settling shit on the field meant nothing...We beat Oklahoma too, and lost on a LAST SECOND PLAY for our only loss of the season...Nothing against Florida either, they handled their business...But the fact that we have this problem in college football and nowhere else...It stings...I read people talking shit about my Horns not blowing out Ohio State; I can tell they don't know anything about sports...Ask Ole Miss if they give a shit that they beat Florida by 1 or 20...A win is a win...If they come up with a way to settle this shit on the field...The talk could be silenced...
I also root for USC and Utah...There is no argument that there are 4, maybe 5 teams that can be deemed worthy of National Champion...I find it most difficult to just be happy for the season my team had, when I know they beat a ton of great competition (more than everyone else) and didn't get to settle it on the field...
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