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'No Saddam link to Iraq al-Qaeda'

that's the US senate and the CIA reporting.

but I guess these are leftist, liberal and communist treehuggers, right?

some quote: Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support.

exactly what I said a few weeks back: he kept the "terrorists" out.

Why did every president prior to Dubya head over to Iraq to do what Dubya did..? I think the answer to that will be far more effective in answering this question...

Reagan? he did deals with Saddam. He sold him the weapons which were used to gas kurds, to fight Iran and to invade Kuwait in 1991.

Bush Sr.? he found himself confronted with a changed Saddam. One who went a bridge too far (which is correct). The world had to face the very same weapons the US sold to Saddam before.

Clinton? Indeed made sure that Saddam was not able to repeat what he did in 91.

Bush Jr? Attacked Iraq without reason. "Pre-emptively", right?! But the world is still waiting for proof of that clear and present danger. Oh. Between you and me: it will not be found, since the 1991-2003 period got rid of Saddam's most dangerous weapons.

we went there to persecute Saddam for things that Clinton should have taken care of...

things that were tantamount to creating a severely negative view of america (like that we were weak enough to be sturck and not retaliate) that bred stronger terrorism elements.

like the money from blood diamonds in South Africa that paid for a few flight lessons... ya know?

raum, I am confused: are you implying some link between Saddam and Al-Quaeda? (I am serious here.)

I think we went there becouse the bush team looked at the iraq through rose colored glasses. To them it was all good. You get rid of sadam..get greated as liberators...creat a democracy that would than influence the rest of the mideast...make tons of money for american contracters rebiulding the place...stabolize a region with large amounts of oil which would keep it cheap for us ...and best of all use money from the oil over there to pay for the war.Cant see what could possible be wrong with that view.

if you are american, you are about the first i hear to say that.

exactly my view as well.

it was a stupid war based on loose intelligence, disregarding numerous forecasts that it could very well go wrong there. oh. and it did.

Oh shit! There's no link between Saddam and Zarqawi? My whole world is crumbling!

[q]Reagan? he did deals with Saddam. He sold him the weapons which were used to gas kurds, to fight Iran and to invade Kuwait in 1991. [/q]

but did Reagan sell them weapons to gas kurds? assuredly not. So, Brains, what was Reagan's goal in arming Iraq?

and,...
Actually, Saddam changed during Reagan's second stay in office. and the change was dramatic and unexpected and ill-timed.

[q]One who went a bridge too far (which is correct). The world had to face the very same weapons the US sold to Saddam before. [/q]

Yah, we gave him more weapons than needed, so he could assure a tense standoff instead of a massacre. and then he betrayed us.

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[q]raum, I am confused: are you implying some link between Saddam and Al-Quaeda? (I am serious here.)[/q]

no, i am saying that the butterfly effect between the two is VERY clear to analysis.

common funding in South American Diamonds.
common history of Pakistani spies.
common enemy in America.
common goal of tyranny.

no, i'd much prefer Saddam be in power than Al-Qaeda.

and I NEVER said the war on terror is sensible. i said, you declare war on NATIONS, not TACTICS. and it is ugly, b ut you do it, and you don't hold back, and then the enemy regroups and makes cool cartoons and technological advancements, and retains its proud culture. ask Japan.

if you hold back and whimp out through weak tactics, you are left with Korea.

We need more Japans and less Koreas.

Brains.....if you are american, you are about the first i hear to say that.

me....Yup i am. If you never heard another american say that your not looking very hard.