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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:06 pm
by Brains
I talked to a Japanese Sony executive just this week. Asked him about the battery recall.
Apparently, Sony holds a quite significant portion of the Li-Ion battery industry.
He said that "yes, Li-Ion batteries is a really unstable technology. Lithium ignites when not shielded. Our batteries are well manufactured, but there is a risk when using the technology. Li-Ion batteries, much like the advent <<fuel cells>> is unstable, a bit less than the latter. When you produce millions and millions of these devices, 0.000001% is bound to be unstable. Couple that with an incorrect use of the technology and the potential for disaster is there. Yes, Sony is to blame. We are marketing and selling unstable technology. Yet, our customers have also not entirely followed our safety precautions and we are talking with them to make sure not to trespass critical thresholds in the future."
hmm. Sony is to blame. Indeed they are, but it seems like the blame is shared as well...
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:49 pm
by iMNO
There are a lot of things that are sold to us that are unstable...anyone ever have a reacall on their car. Makes me think of Fight Club when Ed's taling about he statistics etc. What a crazy, kick-ass movie.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:15 pm
by raum
0.000001% defect is not ground for a mass recall...
and while a user might infrequently overrun usability threshholds, if it is so common you have mass recall, you simply have a product that is not up to the standards of the user's demands.
sony is far better at manufacturing excuses than manufacturing electronics... and they prove it time and time again.
why don't you ask mr sony why his new ps3 takes 380 watts of power, and what the effect of such a large heat rate from the power supply inside the body of the electronics would be. ask him if he has noticed every other console stays below a kilowatt per three hour gaming cycle, and if they have notified customers to expect an 88+% increase in power supply for upgrading from the ps2.
Ask him what sony's position on environment standards are, and if they have noticed that 3,000,000 units playing for three hours will add to the US electricity grid the approximate energy demands of the whole country of Iran, being about 38.4 gigawatts. Is it really worth it to sony or do they think a demand for better graphics is more critical to humanities future than conservation?
and while you are at it, why not ask him why the controllers for the ps3 don't have replacable batteries unless they are standardized to maintain operation for peak usablity.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:40 pm
by Brains
QUOTE(raum @ Nov 11 2006, 11:15 PM) 0.000001% defect is not ground for a mass recall...
and while a user might infrequently overrun usability threshholds, if it is so common you have mass recall, you simply have a product that is not up to the standards of the user's demands.
no it is not.
movies of igniting portables are.
and again: yes, Sony is to blame, but the PC manufacturer as well.
QUOTEsony is far better at manufacturing excuses than manufacturing electronics... and they prove it time and time again.
hmm. they were not really vocal were they? they recalled, took a huge hit and frankly, I would be surprised if anyone here knows the real story I posted. They swallowed it, while they should at least have put some effort into explaining what happened.
"manufacturing excuses". lol.
btw. it is that kind of talk which makes me defend ps3 more than I should. They at least go to extreme lengths to make sure we get leading edge technology for an affordable price. do the maths again: if you want that functionality with 360, you pay WAY more. but oh yeah: MS allows you to "choose". I did not ask for the next movie format to be an add-on, I want it to be in it from the start. I do not want to pay for connectivity, I want it out of the box... but well. that is the other thread's talk.
QUOTEwhy don't you ask mr sony why his new ps3 takes 380 watts of power, and what the effect of such a large heat rate from the power supply inside the body of the electronics would be. ask him if he has noticed every other console stays below a kilowatt per three hour gaming cycle, and if they have notified customers to expect an 88+% increase in power supply for upgrading from the ps2.
Ask him what sony's position on environment standards are, and if they have noticed that 3,000,000 units playing for three hours will add to the US electricity grid the approximate energy demands of the whole country of Iran, being about 38.4 gigawatts. Is it really worth it to sony or do they think a demand for better graphics is more critical to humanities future than conservation?
and while you are at it, why not ask him why the controllers for the ps3 don't have replacable batteries unless they are standardized to maintain operation for peak usablity.
duh. what has this to do here?
ask MS why they advert "wireless" when actually you only get wire-free controllers. Why are they adverting "movie downloads", when the lower-end model can not even store them? ask MS why they call their offering cheap when you end up paying WAY more if you want everything PS3 offers. Ask them why I need to upgrade my PC so that I can enjoy Vista and so on...
If mediocricy is what you want, by all means, go MS. If you want the newest in (games) technology, buy PS3. I am with the latter. Heck I'll make it my next PC. Check the other thread I'll post now...