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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:06 pm
by raum
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16112006/140/p ... igion.html
To whom it may concern,
For the last ten years the United Nations has marked today as the International Day of Tolerance.
While we support this important work, we feel the UN needs to move with the times.
In the 2001 UK census, 390,000 people identified themselves as Jedi Knights, making us the fourth largest religion in the country.
We have a proud heritage dating back 195,000 years to our first Jedi, the blue haired, blue eyed Kaja Sinis, who was born on Coruscant.
Like the United Nations, the Jedi Knights are peacekeepers, and we feel we have the basic right to express our religion through wearing our robes, and to be recognised by the national and international community.
We therefore call upon you to change the 16th November to the United Nations Interstellar Day of Tolerance, to reflect the religious make-up of our twenty-first century civilization.
Tolerance is about respecting difference where ever it lies, including other galaxies. Please don't exclude us from your important work.
May the Force be with you.
AWESOME!!!! Happy Interstellar Day of Tolerance. Raum (which is my Jedi name, and means "Space".)
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:09 pm
by Fapper
have a happy day then
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:19 pm
by raum
personally, i am not a Jedi, as I do not adhere to any main religion. I am however regarded by some Jedi as being a noble student of the Force. MY HERITAGE goes back to 270,000 YA when people were first recorded as being affected by the Force Affinity of the Kyber Crystals, though they were not "Jedi." I also maintain that Kaja organized the Jedi order, to regulate the people who were affected, in an attempt to sterilize its use, against the manipulation of "so-called" Dark Jedi who were influenced by the ambitious Zuti; who is long regarded as the first Sith.
Thus, my own practice and philosophy predates the Dichotomy of Light and Dark sides of the Force.
see, I always have to have my spin on everything... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
by Fapper
I have no religion, despite my catholic education.
I dont mind people believing in any sort of thing as long they use it to build themselves for better. It's a fools job to make jokes at others beliefs, I wish i had the faith to believe in something as when i was a kid i used to.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:30 pm
by trashtalkr
This is a joke right? No one really thinks that they are Jedi's do they?
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:32 pm
by Fapper
and what if?
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:34 pm
by raum
I am making fun of myself, it's called humility through satire. Only a fool believes God didn't give man the ability to laugh for a reason.
I respect Jedi as much as any other majority religion. but i question it as much as well.
...and I maintain that Kaja was really from Civian (where the first Kyber crystals were recorded as being found), not Corsucant, which the tradition of the Jedi holds as an "orthodox" stance.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:36 pm
by trashtalkr
But do people really clain Jedi as their religion? That is just crazy
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:01 pm
by raum
how is it crazier than any other?
postmodern religions are fine, and many do change and help lives not touched by religions more mainstream. not all religion is based on history, some is based on imagination. This religion's myths are no less believable or credible than many modern intrepretations of some that spin this world go-round. And the teachings of those myths are very powerful. George Lucas, who was a emissary of the force's effect finally solidifying its connection with our planet was inspired by Joseph Campbell, and many of his myths and history have powerful messages and dynamics, and some of it doesn't make it to the screen.
there is also the "heritage" aspect of religion, like the Marlinspike heirtage of sailors. i can say "she gigged to port but i still rigged starboard" and to a sailor, that means something important.
it is part of the classic "old salt tales" and involves a story of a sailor who's instincts on the sea were more reliable that any instrumentation.
Picture how some Hebrews must have felt, when in the Kingdom of David all of a sudden this book comes out that is basically saying "In a time long, long ago.. There was this special boy, chosen for his virtue to be the Father of a people" most people in Judea had never even heard about Abraham at that time.
Have you ever sat with a native american? Listen to the stories of their lore. Does their improbablity of tangibly occurring make them silly?
Does the fact that calling Jeshua Ben-Josep by the name of Jee-Zuhs make that practice silly? does the sign of the cross become silly, when most crucified were put on a big "criss cross of wood" X? does the hold through the hand image become silly when you examine the weight tolerance?
But see, for me, the Jedi were not the religion, they were the officiants; the warrior priest caste of the Religion of adhering to the Light Side of the Force.
but this is about a fabricated heritage; like Thanksgiving. Thanskgiving, dead of winter... indeigenous Lene Lanapi brought the settler VENISON from 5 dead DEER. what are you having? Prolly, turkey. Why? A painting by Norman Rockwell, that's why...
silly is as silly does, but the whole of humanity is silly to me, especially my own self and my own behavior.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:55 pm
by iMNO
QUOTEsilly is as silly does, but the whole of humanity is silly to me, especially my own self and my own behavior.
Well put man! I really like that...not that I think you are silly, but that we are all silly!