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So I've been reading over some of my old flames...and while I was quick witted with my tongue...and still to this day think I'm right in them threads and laugh at what I had to say........ I've realized how much growing up I've done...and I'm sure eveyrone who has followed my maturing can attest to that.

So what this flame thread is about....more or less....is to just bring up a negative that has come from this site. More of a discussion topic because this issue has started to become apparent and my friends just don't understand it.


I come off as arrogant as hell around school because of the way I've been here....speaking with people who are my elders and who deserve much more respect than say...I do. But becasue we speak so freely...and the respect is so mutual....it's got me to believe thats how it is everywhere.

If my teacher...a grown ass man...says something intelligent and well crafted....I speak up and compliment him...

and people think that's arrogant as fuck like....how are you...an 18 year old student...going to tell a teacher he is smart.....it should be understood.

I just thought I'd share with everyone that revelation I had recently.....because verything is so open here...I'm getting myself into trouble thinking I'm going to get those same oppurtunities to speak my mind and be heard everywhere else...which apparently isn't the case.



The other thing that has created problems is my mature way of debate....that no one is interested in lol. They're used to me throwing bullshit and them just giving up....but I've changed now....I come direct, clear, and concise...and if I don't know exactly what I want to say...I get frustrated with myself. I don't do that....make a statement....argue about it....then 10 minutes later finally talk my way through it.....if I can't ocme correct the first time...I get dissapointed in myself....

But my open, understanding nature has now made people want to not argue with me...because I won't just sita nd yell and get heated like I used to......so it's much harder for them to win an arguement...and I've found myself getting in fewer debates because I know if I get started...I'm going to come with the facts and the logic until they understand...not the bullshit and the quick wit like I used to.


A lot more maturing has gone on that I could mention....but those two just were in my mind recently and I wanted to let yall in on it....

I like the old, fucked up LG better.. lol

Yea, I have noticed a great change in you over the time you've been here. That can be a good thing, but make sure you keep your fire. That's always a good thing to have also

LG you suck!

LG,
I am fairly new here and don't have the benefit of watching your maturity grow, but I can from reading your thread that you have plenty brains cells left to drink away. Although you have not directly solicited it, let me please give you some knowlage I've gained in 40+ years.
1. Speaking is NOT writing! Writing does not covey inflection. Things that are spoken can convey a lot more mis-information than through writing. For example: You and your girl are having a conversation with old friends in passing. The plesentries are made and you part ways. You are thinking, "It was nice to see them." Your girl turns to you and says, "They were being weird, and she was giving me 'The Eye'. Did you see that?..." (there would be more I'm sure but space is limited) You are now thinking, "Did we have the same conversation?" Answer - NO! Your girl read the inflection and body language on top of every spoken word.

2. What you say in not as important as how you say it. (Progression from #1) Tell your friend, "You're an Asshole!" with a scowl and a harsh tone and he will get pissed off. Tell him the same thing with a smile and a laugh and he will tell you to bite him and go on with a conversation as if it never happened.

3. Telling someone that you found something they said to be, in your opinion, profoundly intelegent is not arrogant no matter how old they are, IF it is not said with a condisending tone. (see #2) It lets them know you were listening and understanding.

4. When arguing, if they say, "F#*& You!" you say, "I WIN!" Never lose your temper in an argument! First of all it pisses them off that you aren't angry. Secondly, everyone is entitled the their opinion no matter how wrong it may be. Lastly, use key argument phrases like, "A lot of people have your same misconseption. Let me state it simply." or "That's what you think? ... Really?!? ... Hmmm." You get the idea.

5. Understand that arguing, debating and convincing are NOT the same thing. Convincing is trying to change a person's opinion. Debating is presenting evidence to support your opinion. Arguing is reminding someone of what an uninteligent twit they really are.

I hope those points of view have helped in some way.

I'm going to come with the facts and the logic until they understand

aka

"Thanks A..!!"

Hey LG! I've noticed a difference too and I think that we've all grown up in our own way. I know I've changed alot too. I don't have much to contribute to this thread now, but I did want to let you know that you're you...ADN has helped shape you...don't conform to what everyone else is doing. If they don't like it, screw em.

Somebody say something about screwin'..?

Are we gonna have to change the name of this section?

...and the award for the "Worst Flame Of All Time" goes to...