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well... you had it.

what do you guys think about it?

imho, Mr. Alterman best describes Bush's rhetoric :
"Where I saw something new was on the domestic side, rather than on the foreign policy side. On the foreign policy side he fell into the familiar pattern of 'al-Qaeda wants it, it must be bad, and if we want it, then al-Qaeda must not want it'. I don't think that's how the world works. Part of the problem is that the president doesn't seem to recognize that some of what alienates people is what we do, and it doesn't just alienate extremists but it alienates people in the middle.

You need to stay away from the "White Alligator", it's starting to rot your brain from the inside out.

i do not have a single clue what you are talking about. please explain.

QUOTE(Brains @ Jan 24 2007, 02:46 AM) well... you had it.

what do you guys think about it?

It was impressive and sets up an interesting set of challenges for Congress. We will quickly see the mettle this assemble possesses, or quickly decide they have none.

Cutting 9 billion dollars in pork earmarked to bills is a great start!

QUOTEimho, Mr. Alterman best describes Bush's rhetoric :
"Where I saw something new was on the domestic side, rather than on the foreign policy side. On the foreign policy side he fell into the familiar pattern of 'al-Qaeda wants it, it must be bad, and if we want it, then al-Qaeda must not want it'. I don't think that's how the world works. Part of the problem is that the president doesn't seem to recognize that some of what alienates people is what we do, and it doesn't just alienate extremists but it alienates people in the middle.

Alterman is a putz who can turn a phrase.

The fact 750,000 more people in Africa now get AIDS medicine after the impact of our action there is far more impressive to the REAL liberal agenda than a new chance to bash Bush's attempts to secure our future against hostile factions of Islam. Also, if you can't tell he honestly cares about the well being of the Iraqi people enough to send American voluneteers in harm's way, and to ensure Iraqi oil revenue is distributed to the people, and to keep death squads from killing opposing factions to secure Iraq for their own agenda - then you are an idiot.

In Iraq, we are doing two things right now:

1. bringing Anti-Americanism to a head in a place that was hitherto suffering from embargos for Anti-Americanism.

2. preventing two extremist groups from commiting genocide on all moderate Iraqis in the fashion that the Hutu did to the Tutsi in Rwanda.

Number 1, The lifting of the embargos has grown Iraq exponentiallly, even in time of war and civil unrest.

Number 2, The critics of America constantly cite America's inaction in Rwanda as a great crime that damaged the integrity of African politics, overall. President Clinton had the opportunity to step in, and he did not. He regards that as his greatest error in office. The blood diamond conflict underlying the whole Rwanda horror is a means by which funding for many efforts of terrorism was achieved. Thus, by not stepping in, we enabled our enemies to secure funding for attacks against us. Just as the oil revenues of iraq have been used and would be used in the future if we did not ensure they are secured for THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ. By preventing the genocide of the Sunni and Shia moderates by death squads, we are ensuring a true freedom in Iraq we failed to deliver to Rwanda; a promise we made to them. I don't like it, and there are times, I get furious about it, but I understand it perhaps better than most of you.

and the thing is, after we secure that, we still have other objectives. Just like wresting power from Saddam was one of the intital reasons. and another was securing their right to election.

Otherwise:

The civilian corp is a great idea (in the constitution since its inception) but will REALLY anger the gun control freaks, and I can't imagine the U.N. would employ these as indigenous forces of lesser nations. I am wondering if they also would run joint operations with FEMA, instead of the National Guard. Will they have a separate budget?

The introduction of China as a major party into Korean Talks may bring that front to a head, but only if Kim Jong Il dies.

The Middle East will go nuts if we cut back our oil revenues in that region as drastically as 20% of our current intake.

Hezbollah is going to launch a major attack before next April. @#$%!!!

Where are they going to attack? Here in the U.S.?

QUOTE(Buffmaster @ Jan 25 2007, 07:55 AM) Where are they going to attack? Here in the U.S.?

Probably not going to attack in the states. They get too much funding from idealists in this country through blanket organizations. The idiocy of fringe social groups or people giving to "Islamic tolerance funds" that they dont even bother to investigate... that is how they finance their armed strength.

hopefully not.

but they could always swing it to attack here, and use that as an example of how frustrated they are with their persecution by the evil Zionist Regime™. some people will no doubt go "well, heck yeah they attacked us,.. because Israel treats them so mean!" and shovel out money to make sure the Muslims aren't misunderstood when they decapitate reporters.