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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:24 am
by AYHJA
This is for me and WAI, about Intel's dominance in the microprocessor market...

Why Experts feel AMD will never catch up:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=273

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:52 am
by BlindG
A research and assumption based on the ever-intel-friendly tomshardware. Shame.

AMD was far behind in her chipsets, yet after the release of the Athlon XPs above 2000, they managed to keep systems highly performing over Intel's and also, much much more stable, since their chipsets were always more reliable. Nforce is one of the fastest and most reliable chipset series while the intel series have flunked one after the other.

AMD was the first to release dual core processors and back then, tomshardware was still claiming that intel's processors were still better, while the rest of the world was accepting AMD's superiority.

Tomshardware is *NOT* a trustworthy site any more since they just look like intel's bitches.

No, I'm not an AMD fan. On the contrary. I used to hate amd. Then again, I saw the numbers, I saw the figures, I saw the stuff that can be done and choosing AMD for my desktops was just an one way road.

That being said, I have to make ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that I will accept -in the future- the superiority of Intel -if/when such moment comes-. Yet, for the moment, AMD has the bull by the hornes /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" />

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:11 am
by AYHJA
Care to place a wager that I can find 5 more articles just like that, which have nothing to do w/tomshardware..?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:37 am
by WAY
I'm sure you can, but BlindG makes a valid point that TomsHardware is unnewsworthy as of two to three years ago.
Everything that comes out of that 'site' is load of bullshit, light on details, or facts are downright wrong..

Take a look at http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.p ... sid=221676 (threshold set to 4 for good viewing)..
Do your self a favor, just read the comments, not the original article itself..

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:48 pm
by BlindG
AYHJA, I never commented on the current set of news /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

I just stated a clear opinion that had to do with tomshardware and people basing their articles on it.

What I'll wage you on, is to find me an article in tomshardware that claims that intel has eaten dust from AMD at any given point /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:53 pm
by AYHJA
I bought my first AMD chip on a Tomshardware review...I won't say that they aren't bias, but they didn't convince me the chip I bought was inferior to an Intel chip...

Ask this kid about his Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Retail about $830) hitting 3.8 GHz:
http://tinyurl.com/3a2epz

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:27 pm
by jdog
Intel had a lead from the start when AMD was merely copying their architecture (486 days). Of course the Athlon 64 was a whole different beast but AMD hasn't come up with anything to topple the Core 2 Duo.

AMD's latest processors at 65nm run quite cool but perform on par with their 90nm brothers. Clock for clock, Intel leads considerably.

FYI, I'm an AMD Opteron 165 owner too. I got it when Intel came out with their Pentium D's though.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:41 am
by AYHJA
Intel Showcases 80 Core Research Chip

Another aspect of the chip is fine-grained power management. At a clock frequency of 3.16GHz, the CPU drew just 62W (at 0.95v), and was capable of one teraflop operation in a single application.

http://tinyurl.com/yre8ly

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:49 am
by WAY
Seriously, why the fuck would someone need 80 cores..
Anyway, Intel even admitted that NO software can really properly run on it..
Most are designed for a top of 2 cores anyway, forget 4 cores..

Plus, Intel can't even connect any memory to it.. lol

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:12 am
by zaphodz
I agree Tomshardware went somewhat stale a number of years ago when Tom Pabst stopped putting effort into it.

I adblock everything. A few days ago I loaded Tomshardware at work on Internet Explorer and almost choked on the ads. Every article is 20 pages long to cram in more ads. They add some fluff and dodgy articles in every so often.

Regarding AMD vs Intel, AMD really kicked butt with the 486 (anyone remember their 486-120 chip), their cheap K7 chips and recently with their lineup before core duo came out. They'll rise again. Technology changes daily.