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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:41 am
by AYHJA


Monday, March 19, 2007 | 3:16 PM ET

E8 Mapped

CBC News -- An international team of mathematicians and computer
scientists announced on Monday they have mapped out a 248-dimension
mathematical structure that had confounded the world's top
number-crunchers for 120 years.

The calculation of the structure, known as E8, takes about 60 gigabytes
of space on a computer, or enough space to hold about 15,000 songs in
MP3 format. It took 18 researchers from the United States and Europe
four years to produce the E8 calculation and 77 hours for a U.S.
supercomputer called Sage 77 to provide the solution.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/2c9x9o

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:57 am
by Adtz
Man, this underlies my problem with modern physics...they spent 4 years mapping this out and 77 hours of computer time - and now they say "the solution could possibly have implications in our understanding of the universe"? It may help us crunch problems, but I don't know about understanding it. Also, how do they verify it? Computational understanding is great for engineering, but for fundamental science?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:51 am
by Highlander65
Yes but, how exactly is this going to help Uber pay his electric bill?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:04 pm
by raum
QUOTE(Adtz @ Mar 20 2007, 04:57 AM) Man, this underlies my problem with modern physics...they spent 4 years mapping this out and 77 hours of computer time - and now they say "the solution could possibly have implications in our understanding of the universe"? It may help us crunch problems, but I don't know about understanding it. Also, how do they verify it? Computational understanding is great for engineering, but for fundamental science?

Cartesian Mathematics are hardly fundamental science. This discipline is a school of mathematics that is fanatical about Mathematics. It is like talking to a Trekkie about finding a way to map the Genetic simularities between Romulans, Klingons, Vulcans, and whatever humans are called in Star Trek. It is abstract, and represents the 248 sub-dimensions between the Second and the Third base dimensions, by way of forcing mathematical symmetry to expand numerical essence into material substance, through a BIG extrapolation employing Archimedean solids.

It's a three dimensional magic square, with interlaying points with 248 relational dimensions between its points.

Like

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

All rows and columns, and the two verticals equal 15. Magic Square.

Imagine the same thing, in three base dimensions, with ALL symmetry between any two given coordinates.

This is what E8 is. and it will probably be the last time you hear about it. Unless you study Cartesian Mathematics, where this essentially is a variable that is not neccessarily valued.

Now walk away from the ledge, solving complex math problems you create does not mean you can fly...

(Why I hardly fit in at all in "Higher Math Circles"...)

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:26 am
by Adtz
Well anything with numbers in it is hardly math, is it? I knew I was in a good class when the prof said "For a concrete example, imagine a space that..."