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"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person™s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American¦ There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn™t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag¦ We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language¦ and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.


”Theodore Roosevelt, 1907

This was sent to me by a friend. Makes perfect sense.


A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV:

Recently, large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the U.S. might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work) because he too is hard-working and honest (except for that breaking in part.)

If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest (um, except for well, you know.)

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me! English is too hard for me to learn. You should also allow me to vote--in my own language, since I live in your house!

I borrowed this post by Kolby'sfan from Rivals.com




Illegal Invasion....

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Pleaase keep in mind the date of this article.... this is from 7 years ago....think what has been accomplished since.... NewsMax.com
Mexican Reconquista: Leader Says California Will Be First 'Hispanic' State
Stephan Archer
Wednesday, June 7, 2000
"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important “ a very important “ part of this."
This statement wasn™t made in secrecy behind closed doors. It wasn™t said outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America. None other than Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo spoke it in Chicago on July 23, 1997.
Speaking before the National Council of La Raza, Zedillo went on to say, "For this reason, my government proposed a constitutional amendment to allow any Mexican with the right and the desire to acquire another nationality to do so without being forced to first give up his or her Mexican nationality."
This amendment is significant for more than just the obvious reason. It is nearly impossible to obtain Mexican citizenship unless you can prove you are Mexican or are of Mexican descent. If you are neither, you must prove that you have completely adopted Mexican culture and lifestyle. Yet a Mexican citizen can, in essence, acquire another nationality and remain a Mexican. Is this a double standard?
Glenn Spencer, president of Voice of Citizens Together and radio talk show host of American Patrol Report, thinks so. But he thinks there™s something more sinister to the Mexican president™s decree than one might think.
"This is an invasion of the United States in a very classic way with all of the classic objectives of an invasion without using bullets," Spencer said.
Spencer added he believed Mexico is allowing this so that those people with dual citizenship may vote in the interest of Mexico in the United States. The ultimate goal of this invasion, Spencer contends, is to reclaim the American Southwest “ an area including California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas. Known as Aztlan by Hispanic activists, these states make up what used to be Mexican territory before treaties and wars gave the land to the United States.
Some Hispanic activists deny that there is any sort of organized effort to take over these states and reclaim it for Mexico. However, Jose Pescador Osuna, who was once the Mexican consul general in Los Angeles, has been quoted on the record as saying, "Even though I™m saying this part serious and part joking, I believe we are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."
"La Reconquista" means "the reconquest" and refers to the taking over of the U.S. Southwest. Osuna now is an agent of the Mexican government and works for migration in Mexico City.
even though these statements have been made on American soil, Mario Obledo of the California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations said the "radical" Aztlan movement died in the 1960s. Obledo, a resident of Sacramento, Calif., explained that his organization tries to secure the civil rights of Mexican-Americans "and others similarly situated."
Although claiming a profound faith in America, he™s also proud of the fact that the majority of Californians in the next few years will be Hispanic.
"California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said. "Anyone who doesn™t like it should leave."
Obledo further added: "Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years. It™s a fact of life. That™s all. All of those propositions “ 187, 209, and whatever “ is a backlash due to the insecurities of the majority population. That™s all. But all those measures are going to be reversed one of these days."
Proposition 187 was the California initiative supported by a majority of Californians that denied taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens. Proposition 209 was another initiative supported by a majority of Californians that banned affirmative action, that is, prohibited preferential treatment in the work place and public schools and universities.
Speaking at a Latino gathering in response to Proposition 187™s passage in 1995, Art Torres, the chairman of the California Democratic Party, said: "Power is not given to you. You have to take it. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America in California."
But if Mexico is to reclaim the U.S. Southwest, how will it be done?
Spencer believes that with the increasing unrest along the U.S.-Mexican border, the U.S. Border Patrol will eventually become overwhelmed, requiring the U.S. Army to take action. With increasing unrest and military presence all along the border, the current border will be erased and a new border zone stretching 150 miles from the current border into the United States will be put in place.
Although this may sound impossible, President Clinton has already issued an executive order that could put such a border zone in place.
Executive Order 13122, signed by the president May 25, 1999, established an Interagency Task Force on the Economic Development of the Southwest Border. The purpose of the task force is to "coordinate and better leverage existing Administration efforts for the Southwest Border, in concert with locally led efforts to increase the living standards and the overall economic profile of the Southwest Border so that it may achieve the average of the Nation."
Down toward the bottom of the executive order, it adds, "The Southwest Border or Southwest Border region is defined as including the areas up to 150 miles north of the United States-Mexican border in the States of Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and California."
Spencer believes this inclusion in the executive order is little more than a mechanism of NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) to erase the border by creating a border "zone" instead of a border line.
"It™s an attempt to gradually erase the border," Spencer said.
Spencer has been speaking about his scenario of an "Aztlan invasion" on the radio for some time now, and it has drawn considerable attention, including death threats.
Referring to a banner he saw at California State University, Northridge that read "Aztlan Graduation," Spencer concluded: "This is an invasion of the United States. I believe it™s going to end up in a war, and I believe it™s going to be so much worse because Clinton has sold us down the river."

Man, I was thinking about this the other day...And for the first time, I realized capitalism sucked ass...

I can't pick up a fucking pocket of swiffer wipes without seeing Spanish all over the fucking package...Everywhere you go, people are putting Spanish everywhere...Almost like it supports illegal immigration...If you're visiting here, fine...But if you're living here, learn the fucking language...

I have no idea where this country will be in 20 years...And that's kinda scary...

When I call my cable company, I have to push #1 to hear this call in English. If I don't, the call continues in Spanish. This is complete bullshit.





I say protest your own fucking government before you protest to ours wanting more handouts to go back to their mother country... oh that's right, they can't.

QUOTE(Buffmaster @ May 23 2007, 02:16 AM) "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person™s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American¦ There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn™t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag¦ We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language¦ and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
”Theodore Roosevelt, 1907

FUCKING AYE

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Press 1 for no ESPANOL

^^ ... A-FUCKIN-MEN

I'm all for standing on the border (with my LEGAL Assault rifle) and having the US Govt pay me for scalps, illegals, etc.

Get the HS skeet teams, ROTC, National Guard, etc; some REAL target practice

wow! this is quite a one sided thread isnt it?

i know i shouldn't since i came here asking for help and have been leeching at the site, so maybe pissing people off (who have helped me) by arguing on this issue might not be a good idea... but i just cant help it.
BTW im hispanic so you can guess where i stand on this issue...


first of all, we hispanics are not race, we are not a religion, we are a culture. our culture is what makes us who we are, its what defines us as hispanics, as such if we got rid of our culture we would stop being hispanics, and even if we wanted to, we cant, we cannot just destroy our heritage and way of life just as easily quickly as you want.


as for Teddy, he was a racist a-hole who treated my people (puerto ricans) like trash. so i couldnt care less what he said 100 years ago...

and that was quite the interesting analogy that lady wrote... heres my own:

"Some poor guy dying of hunger breaks into a convinience store and takes an old peice of bread for him and his family to eat. but then the store owner catches him in the act of stealing, instead of calling the cops the store owner decides to exploit the guy by making him run the whole store and making him do all the work, all for just that old peice of bread wich he then gives most of it to his family...not only that but the store owner is always telling the guy what an useless peice of shit he is and how a cockroach like him is eating his rotting old bread..."

now a lot of you probably agree with the store owner but i think that the one whos
really being taken advantage of is the poor guy...

as for the whole Illegal Invasion post... OMG! How does he knows about our evil kabbala!!!!????
Quick! i must warn the jews, gays and blacks that buffmaster knows about our evil agenda to take over america!

and ubermersch atleast you got it right by blaming the system instead of just using mexicans as scape-goats

IMO the real problem is the goverment instead of us hispanics...

the problem of quality of life for the middle and lower class is that the goverment only cares about the rich and big corporations

the real problem with inmigation is that to keep the economy strong this country need a cheap labor force and thats the reason for illegal inmigrants... you blame them for all your problems becouse they are an easy target yet you fail to see the real cause of it all.

QUOTE(SEF @ May 30 2007, 12:29 PM) wow! this is quite a one sided thread isnt it?

i know i shouldn't since i came here asking for help and have been leeching at the site, so maybe pissing people off (who have helped me) by arguing on this issue might not be a good idea... but i just cant help it.
BTW im hispanic so you can guess where i stand on this issue...
first of all, we hispanics are not race, we are not a religion, we are a culture. our culture is what makes us who we are, its what defines us as hispanics, as such if we got rid of our culture we would stop being hispanics, and even if we wanted to, we cant, we cannot just destroy our heritage and way of life just as easily quickly as you want.
as for Teddy, he was a racist a-hole who treated my people (puerto ricans) like trash. so i couldnt care less what he said 100 years ago...

and that was quite the interesting analogy that lady wrote... heres my own:

"Some poor guy dying of hunger breaks into a convinience store and takes an old peice of bread for him and his family to eat. but then the store owner catches him in the act of stealing, instead of calling the cops the store owner decides to exploit the guy by making him run the whole store and making him do all the work, all for just that old peice of bread wich he then gives most of it to his family...not only that but the store owner is always telling the guy what an useless peice of shit he is and how a cockroach like him is eating his rotting old bread..."

now a lot of you probably agree with the store owner but i think that the one whos
really being taken advantage of is the poor guy...

as for the whole Illegal Invasion post... OMG! How does he knows about our evil kabbala!!!!????
Quick! i must warn the jews, gays and blacks that buffmaster knows about our evil agenda to take over america!

and ubermersch atleast you got it right by blaming the system instead of just using mexicans as scape-goats

IMO the real problem is the goverment instead of us hispanics...

the problem of quality of life for the middle and lower class is that the goverment only cares about the rich and big corporations

the real problem with inmigation is that to keep the economy strong this country need a cheap labor force and thats the reason for illegal inmigrants... you blame them for all your problems becouse they are an easy target yet you fail to see the real cause of it all.

Well SEF, your about as smart as a tree full Owl's.

Where the fuck did you read that I, Buffmaster wrote that Invasion shit? Go back and read the part where I borrowed that post from Rivals.com.

As for the moldy bread sob story (show me a fast food joint that pays below the legal wage), I'm sure that the free medical care that is provided will make up the difference, after all they are here illegally.

Dude, I wasn't attacking Mexican's, it was a "Did you know this" type of thread, so get off your high horse and worry about Mexico and what her government isn't doing for the good People of Mexico instead of blaming ours for your problems. It works both ways