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Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:18 am
by happywonton
Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

LOS ANGELES - Warner Bros. Entertainment said Friday it will release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format, becoming the latest studio to reject the rival HD DVD technology and further complicating the high-definition landscape for consumers.

Warner Bros., owned by Time Warner Inc., was the only remaining studio releasing high-definition DVDs in both formats.

It is the fifth studio to back Blu-ray, developed by Sony Corp. Only two support the HD DVD format, developed by Toshiba Corp.

Both formats deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound. But they are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players, which means consumers seeking top-quality playback face a dilemma.

Warner said it decided to go with Blu-ray because consumers have shown a stronger preference for that format than HD DVD.

"The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger," Warner Bros. chairman and Chief Executive Barry Meyer said in a statement.

"We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers and, most importantly, consumers," the statement said.

The company said sales of Blu-ray discs in the U.S. generated $169 million last year, while sales of discs in the HD DVD format totaled $103 million.

About 60 percent of Warner's sales of U.S. high-definition discs were Blu-ray titles and the other 40 percent were HD DVD, said Kevin Tsujihara, president of Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group.

Outside the U.S., the divide was far wider, with Warner's Blu-ray discs outselling titles in HD DVD in Britain and Japan, among other markets, Tsujihara said.

Sales of set-top high-definition disc players in the fourth quarter of 2007 also factored into Warner's decision.

The company saw an acceleration in sales of Blu-ray players at the end of the quarter, particularly in December, Tsujihara said.

"We always viewed set-tops as the most significant indicator" of consumers' format preference, he said.

Still, one alarming trend Warner keyed on was that consumers didn't appear motivated by price reductions on high-definition disc players.

"When we saw that was not impacting sales in the level that it should have, and the consumer research that we did indicated that the consumers were holding back from buying either one of the two formats ... we thought it was the right time to act," Tsujihara said, noting that even sales of standard DVDs were affected because consumers appeared unsure over which format to go with.

"That was kind of the worst of all worlds for us," he said.

There are some differences between the formats. Blu-ray discs can hold more data — 50 gigabytes compared with HD DVD's 30 GB — but the technology's new manufacturing techniques boosted initial costs.

HD DVDs, on the other hand, are essentially DVDs on steroids, meaning movie studios can turn to existing assembly lines to produce them in mass.

Warner Home Video will continue to release new titles in HD DVD until the end of May.

Pali Capital analyst Rich Greenfield said in a Web posting Friday that he expects the HD DVD format to "die a quick death, versus a prolonged format war."

"While we still expect overall consumer spending on DVDs to decline at least 3 percent in 2008, the risk of an even worse 2008 DVD environment has most likely been avoided by Warner's early 2008 decision," Greenfield wrote.

The North American HD DVD Promotional Group Inc., a trade association that promotes the HD DVD format, did not have an immediate comment Friday.

Calls to representatives for Toshiba, Sony and the Blu-ray Disc Association were not immediately returned.

Studios and retailers have been choosing sides in the high-def format war in recent months.

Blu-ray got a big boost in June when Blockbuster Inc. announced it would stock only Blu-ray titles as it expands its high-definition offerings.

Target Inc., the nation's second-largest retailer, decided in July to sell only Blu-ray DVD players.

Among the other major studios that have decided to go with Blu-ray: The Walt Disney Co., Sony Corp.'s Sony Pictures, News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

Viacom's Paramount Pictures, which also owns DreamWorks SKG, dropped its support for Blu-ray and said it would start distributing films exclusively in the HD DVD format.

Universal Pictures, a unit of General Electric, also releases films only in HD DVD.

Time Warner shares slipped 42 cents, or 2.5 percent, to $15.91 Friday.

Source: Yahoo News

Good news for me since I have a PS3. One question is how they're going to get Adult videos onto blu-ray. I heard that Debbie Does Dallas was supposed to be the first but never heard if that went through all the way.

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:35 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
so,the mess gets murkier..

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:15 am
by 5829
My opinion is that it is all going to be moot by time they decide. I think that everything will be sold on memory sticks or hard drives pretty soon. Either that or you will bring your device to a store download your movie at the store and bring it home. Or a combination of both.

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:19 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
5829 wrote:My opinion is that it is all going to be moot by time they decide. I think that everything will be sold on memory sticks or hard drives pretty soon. Either that or you will bring your device to a store download your movie at the store and bring it home. Or a combination of both.
if only that were so.

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:33 am
by zaphodz
I hope both formats die...
Screw them both. Its time for a new, cheaper and higher capacity solution to come forward.
Like a lot of technology released lately, good things are getting ruined by DRM and licensing restrictions.

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:08 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
zaphodz wrote:I hope both formats die...
Screw them both. Its time for a new, cheaper and higher capacity solution to come forward.
Like a lot of technology released lately, good things are getting ruined by DRM and licensing restrictions.
LOL.
Indeed.
Agreed.

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:57 pm
by AYHJA
Until one can come forward and produce a definitive difference in quality, I'll just buy whichever disk is cheaper...And as long as I can continue to see quality titles on HD DVD, I'm still not buying a Blu-Ray disk...

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:14 pm
by happywonton
Toshiba Defiant After HD DVD Setback

Toshiba Defiant After Warner Decision to Drop HD DVD in Favor of Blu-Ray

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Toshiba Corp. executives had a tough moment Sunday, when they had to face reporters just two days after its HD DVD movie disc format was dealt a potentially fatal blow by the defection of Warner Bros. Entertainment to a rival technology.

"It's difficult for me to read the comments of the pundits that HD is dead," said Jodi Sally, vice president of marketing for digital audio and video at Toshiba America Consumer Products. She was speaking at a news conference ahead of the International Consumer Electronics Show, which starts here Monday.

Sally indicated that Toshiba would continue its fight with a Sony Corp.-led group to dominate the market for a replacement to the DVD.

"We've been declared dead before," Sally said.

Only two major U.S. studios now support HD DVD, while five support Sony's Blu-ray disc. Warner is the last studio to put out movies in both formats, but will stop publishing HD DVDs in May.

Akio Ozaka, head of Toshiba America Consumer Products, said the company was surprised by Warner's announcement Friday.

"We were particularly disappointed that the decision was made in spite of the significant momentum HD DVD has gained," Ozaka said.

HD DVD players, practically all of which are made by Toshiba, had their best sales ever in the fourth quarter of last year, Ozaka said.

Sally said HD DVD players represented 49.3 percent of the players for high definition discs sold as of Dec. 22, quoting figures from market research firm NPD. However, the figures don't include sales of Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 game console, which plays Blu-ray discs. The format also has consistently beaten HD DVD in the number of discs sold.

While Toshiba sounded a defiant note, a media event scheduled for Sunday evening by the North American HD DVD Promotional Group, which includes Intel Corp. and Microsoft Corp., was canceled because of Warner's defection.

"We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps," the group said in a statement.

Warner said its decision to drop HD DVD was based on consumers' preference for Blu-ray.

The availability of two competing formats, and the confusion and uncertainty it's sowed among buyers, has been widely blamed for the slow adoption of high-definition players in general.

Warner Bros. Entertainment is owned by Time Warner Inc.

Source: Yahoo News

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:00 am
by happywonton
^1000th post. I forgot to mention that.

Re: Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:27 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
congrats on the 1000.

from TMB:

Apple To Go Blu-Ray?

Apple-Logo-4Last night I posted about Warner Bros switching exclusively to Blu-Ray in the HD format war. I commented that it now seems inevitable that Blu-Ray will now end up winning this HD civil war sooner rather than later. On top of that, if the new rumors I’ve been hearing are true… it’s the final nail in the coffin.

I’ve been hearing from a few movie blog readers, and reading on a few tech sites that Apple may be getting ready to announce that their desktop computer line-up will soon include Blu-Ray DVD players built in as a standard feature. No word if that includes IMacs or just the Mac Pro computers.

If this is indeed true, then Steve Jobs will not only be announcing the addition of a new feature on the Mac line ups… but essentially he’ll also (by extension) be informally announcing the end of the HD format war, because it will be game over. Not in 2 years. Not next year. Right now it will be over and I’d be surprised if more than 3 months pass before phase out announcements started coming from the HD DVD camp.

The ONLY thing at this point I can see turing this whole thing around for HD DVD, is if Microsoft and each of the major computer makers suddenly announced that from now on HD DVD players will be included in all new PC computers… but that’s obviously not going to happen (especially with Sony computers).