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Post 9/11 Retrospective...
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:38 pm
by AYHJA
When I went to NYC this week, I made it a priority to seen the WTC site, Ground Zero...
I don't know how it works for other people, but I have like...A sixth sense for senseless death...I remember once while I was in Memphis for the Mike Tyson fight...We were riding around, looking for a parking space...I was in the back seat, laying down...I felt really weird, and a chill came all over me...It is really very hard to explain...But anyway, I sit up, and we are in front of the Lorraine Motel, where Dr. Martin Luther King was gunned down...
My first visit to Dallas, I rode that same feeling to Dealy Plaza, I mean went directly there without reading any signs what so ever, which is where President Kennedy was met with a triangulation of crossfire that ended his life...
Seeing Ground 0, was no different...It's one thing to see those buildings burning on television, but a completely different thing to actually be there...It was a horrible feeling man, and I just wanted to go...
We kind of touched on this before, but we didn't really explore it...Nobody, except maybe a few websites, explore this kind of thing...Were the 9/11 attacks a home job..??? The Pentagon wasn't hit by an airplane, that much is obvious...I was also in D.C. this week, and if you've ever seen the Pentagon, you'd have to be Top Gun to fly a 747 into that building and it still be standing...There is a website that highlights that...
That Farenheit 9/11 movie, as I mentioned before, never really brought that out...It missed the most obvious of the things that should have been talked about in a documentary...Did we witness what happened to JFK happen on a massive scale..??
AYHJA
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:02 pm
by x3n
as ALWAYS, situations like this bring out the craziest of theories, which almost always, overshadow the ideas that should be further explored. That, in itself is the best weapon to displace interest in questioning what happened and who is responsible. Coupled with the "that's not what's important, what is important was the families" attitude, the one version we all think we know, became the accepted unquestionable one. Pretty nifty trick.
I personally don't think timed explosives were involved, I don't think missiles were involved (unless they dressed them up like big muthafukkin civilian aircraft and strapped a bunch of people to them). I also choose to ignore aliens, sonic blasts, the Illuminati, Nostradamus predicting this shit, or the Ku'ran mentioning it.
However, there are also a few things worth mentioning and heavily shrowded throughout the whole ordeal. For now, I'll leave good ol' Dubs lightning-fast response to the attacks aside, because....why get into that, right?.
I'm far from an avionics expert...but I do know there is a bit of a difference between "cruise speed" or less and Mach 2.5 (1,665 mph...yes, fast).
? not reach their intended targets?
READ, if you'd like.
? Saudi citizens with fake ID's and incomplete resident papers, attending flight school?...skipping the landing and approach lessons?
?, you're CIA, and FBI, that's your fucking job.
? We all know about the Saudi and Bin Laden families being allowed to board and fly out of the US safely, when there was a nationwide federal alert on all domestic flights. noone flies, except "the enemy".
? Several and very successful attempts to stall the 9/11 Comission investigations. Including a huge delay on the release of documents from the White House. ending in a less than satisfactory "interview" with governor...errrr...sorry, president Bush behind closed doors. No press allowed. Remember the very public impeachment hearings for Clinton?, yup, for gettin head in the office. But what do we know about priorities?
? Hey, do any of you know what's up with that Osama dude? any news?...no?
I can keep going all day on this subject alone, the fact is, I've only read about this, from both sides ( I highly recommend that approach). I don't know or claim to know what happened. I do think that when it comes to government...Occam's Razor works inversely, the simplest explanation, is usually incorrect and most likely meant to throw you off. JFK's killer was supposed to be this Castro-lovin "commie"...what?, huh? SO?!!!
yup, I call BULLSHIT! and I don't think anyone else should be made to clean that up, I say 4 more.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:36 am
by AYHJA
Also, I think that it is VERY interesting...That in the first documentary Michael Moorer did, Bowling for Columbine, it was reported that one of the students I think had written into his diary or fuckin' book of little psychos, about an attack on the WTC using airplanes...
I really do think that the attacks were doctored....Very interesting link that you posted x3n...Please feel free to express any theories that you have on the subject..! Conspiracy theory is my shit, and I could explore it for days...
AYHJA
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:11 pm
by x3n
I'm not sure that I can offer many different theories, as I feel that all signs point in the direction of creating an enemy that wasn't really there to begin with. Everything from the forced entry into the presidency to the "bait n' switch" nature of the Osama/Saddam cup-game reeks of a territorial agenda.
This terror climate and color-coded alerts that go up everytime Democrats find irregularities is a bit unsettling. That "solution to the Liberal problem" seems to be working wonders, because labeling heads "unpatriotic" was getting a bit old. Of course I'm oversimplifying it, but the shit is way thick, and as i've mentioned many times before, seek and ye shall find, that's how most of our members found all the ass in the galleries.
But, just in case you care to [url=
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/wokusch.php?articleid=3553]LOOK.
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:07 pm
by aldo
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:25 pm
by x3n
and now, I got heads sending ME shit...
Pentagon Hit
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:58 pm
by AYHJA
Just as I thought...
I have never seen that footage, or anything else that said that it wasn't a plane that hit the Pentagon...To me, as soon as they said it, I knew it was bullshit...
I have been on that highway...I knew the moment that they said something, that it was JFK shit all over again...No amateur pilot would be able to navigate that speed, with that much accuracy...The Maverick himself would have probably had to circle overhead a few times...
And the last time that I checked, that part of D.C. is restricted airspace...There is even a height limit to the buildings in DC...Nothing goes over the Washington Monument...If you all can recall, they said that it was aiming for the White House, and settled for the Pentagon instead...
Riiiiiight...
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:54 pm
by Aemeth
Yo, man, how can you care so much about this and say you dont care 'bout w'sup with the government n ish LoL..but yea, JFK, tupac, i think it was all set up /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" />, why not, it makes interesting conversation /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:00 pm
by AYHJA
I love conspiracy theory itself, DeEje baby, cause I'm such a nerd...Crime, and the psychology of it, fascinates me...If I'm not here, I can probably be found in the crime library studying to find the common link of all crime...I don't care in the sense that, I don't feel threatened? that the U.S. gov't planned an attack on its people...As I've said before, or asked rather, "What else is new..?"
Nothing this country does surprises me, I am marred by the loss of life and tragedy, however...But it doesn't make me sad, or angry about the gov't...Again, the gov't may be fucked up and corrupt, but that shouldn't shock anybody...If it's fucked up an vicious, us Americans are responsible for it...
AYHJA
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:36 pm
by Aemeth
true about who is responsible, but how is it corrupted? thas what i wanna know...