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Indiana Jones

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:58 pm
by darklighter1
Anyone see the movie yet? I liked it. Didn't love it but thought it was pretty good. Some parts were eye rollers but for the most part I think I put it up as the third best in the saga.

Check this article out. Russians think their children will think this was a true story. They must be terrified of going to Japan thinking Godzilla may attack at any moment.

Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red

By Denis PinchukFri May 23, 4:21 PM ET

Russian Communist Party members condemned the new "Indiana Jones" film on Friday as crude, anti-Soviet propaganda that distorts history and called for it to be banned from Russian screens.

"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" stars Harrison Ford as an archeologist in 1957 competing with an evil KGB agent, played by Cate Blanchett, to find a skull endowed with mystic powers.

"What galls is how together with America we defeated Hitler, and how we sympathized when Bin Laden hit them. But they go ahead and scare kids with Communists. These people have no shame," said Viktor Perov, a Communist Party member in Russia's second city of St. Petersburg.

The comments were made at a local Communist party meeting and posted on its Internet site www.kplo.ru.

The film, the fourth in the hugely successful Indiana Jones series, went on release in Russian cinemas on Thursday. Russian media said it was being shown on 808 screens, the widest ever release for a Hollywood movie.

In past episodes Indiana Jones has escaped from Nazi soldiers, an Egyptian snake pit, a Bedouin swordsman and a child-enslaving Indian demigod.

RUNNING DOGS

"Harrison Ford and Cate Blanchett (are) second-rate actors, serving as the running dogs of the CIA. We need to deprive these people of the right of entering the country," said another party member, Andrei Gindos.

Though the ranks of the once all-powerful Communist Party have dwindled since Soviet times, its members see themselves as the defenders of the achievements of the old Soviet Union.

Other communists said the generation born after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union were being fed revisionist, Hollywood history. They advocated banning the Indiana Jones outright to prevent "ideological sabotage."

"Our movie-goers are teenagers who are completely unaware of what happened in 1957," St Peterburg Communist Party chief Sergei Malinkovich told Reuters.

"They will go to the cinema and will be sure that in 1957 we made trouble for the United States and almost started a nuclear war."

"It's rubbish ... In 1957 the communists did not run with crystal skulls throughout the U.S. Why should we agree to that sort of lie and let the West trick our youth?"

Vladimir Mukhin, another member of the local Communist Party, said in comments posted on the Internet site that he would ask Russia's Culture Ministry to ban the film for its "anti-Soviet propaganda."

The "Indiana Jones" film is not the first Hollywood production to offend Russian sensibilities.

In 1998 the Russian parliament demanded the government explain why the Hollywood film "Armageddon" - which depicted a dilapidated Russian space station that blows apart because of a leaky pipe -- was allowed onto Russian cinema screens.

A government official at the time said the film, starring Bruce Willis as the leader of a team of astronauts sent to deflect an asteroid on a collision course with Earth, "mocked the achievements of Soviet and Russian technology."

Reuters/Nielsen

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:36 pm
by Bastard Brigade
"What galls is how together with America we defeated Hitler, and how we sympathized when Bin Laden hit them. But they go ahead and scare kids with Communists. These people have no shame," said Viktor Perov, a Communist Party member in Russia's second city of St. Petersburg.
"Scare kids with Communists?" Viktor should read the biography of Joseph Stalin; he was pretty scary. Or perhaps visit some North Korean concentration camps, or watch the footage of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. I could go on, suffice to say, Communism doesn't exactly have the squeaky clean image Viktor seems to believe it does.
"Harrison Ford and Cate Blanchett (are) second-rate actors
Them's fightin' words, Andrei!

"Our movie-goers are teenagers who are completely unaware of what happened in 1957," St Peterburg Communist Party chief Sergei Malinkovich told Reuters.

"They will go to the cinema and will be sure that in 1957 we made trouble for the United States and almost started a nuclear war."
No, that was 1962.
"It's rubbish ... In 1957 the communists did not run with crystal skulls throughout the U.S. Why should we agree to that sort of lie and let the West trick our youth?"
I'm pretty sure the Commies did run around the U.S. with crystal skulls in the 1950's. That's what Dick Cheney told me.

It's all too funny. Reminiscent of Iran's bad review of 300. :laff:

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:30 pm
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
i disliked this muchly so i call it Kingdom Of The Ca$h Grab instead. it just didn't feel like an Indy film. it has the all the bells and whistles of indy (including Ford and even Karen Allen) but it just doesn't feel like an Indy film. maybe they waited too damn long. 18+ years is a long time to build up expectations for those who do (i had none) . btw Shia LeDoche feels way out of place too. it feels too forced and that the only reason for making it other monetary reasons, was to set up a new film spin-off franchise with the hollywood-flavour-of-the-moment Lebouf as Indy's son who can't decide if he's Fonzie or a spoofed effeminate version of Brando in The Wild One.

Do some of you people remember a few years back when the third Blade film hardly showcased the main character in favor of highlighting the lame sidekicks so there could be a potential 'nightstalkers' spin-off with Biel and Van Wilder? Instead we the Blade fans had a great film series sucking gigantic ass and dying an undeserved early death. That is what i think will become of Indy 4. a lame unmemorable swan-song for a once great character (and Harrison Ford). i still can't get the bland/bad taste out of this (& Speed Racer) my mouth. yeah the story was so blahzay that if you changed the characters names, it could have been any old c-grade adventure movie. not once during the whole movie did it ever feel like Ford & his gang were in any Real Danger. Indy was never about the clever dialogue or story-driven (though the original trilogy had bits of both). Indy was about the friggin CLIFFHANGERS & the way he escaped them. Crystal Ca$h Grab had no real cliffhangers.
i'm glad i bought the boxed set a couple of years ago so i can pretend this doesn't exist like Lucas' prequels & his remixed versions of Star Bores & Spielberg's politically correct reworking of ET. if i'm being kind, 4/10.

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:35 pm
by raum
so let me get this straight, Blanchett and Ford get calls for depriving the right to enter Russia, but Spielberg gets nothing? do they know that little about making movies?

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:40 pm
by raum
ford is too old to be chasing magic rocks... there. I said it.

Could you imagine Temple of Doom (my favorite) if it were made with a 66 year old Indy?

he would have died doing the filming, guaranteed.

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:52 pm
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
raum wrote:ford is too old to be chasing magic rocks... there. I said it.

Could you imagine Temple of Doom (my favorite) if it were made with a 66 year old Indy?

he would have died doing the filming, guaranteed.
CDR! AGREED. ;)

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:03 am
by Bastard Brigade
Haven't seen the movie yet, but I was afraid things could go horribly wrong. I have no confidence left what-so-ever in George LucASS to produce anything good after he sodomized Star Wars. With Spielberg...? The jury is still out. After the bad reviews, this one might be best left for DVD.

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:12 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
The jury came back on with a guilty verdict on spielberg after pussied out onmaking private ryan a truly great war movie by injecting most of the film with his trademark schmaltz & cheese with only the bread of the opening & closing battles edible off that sandwich.

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:00 am
by darklighter1
Well...I liked it. Definitely wasn't up with Raiders or Crusade but I liked it better than Temple. Ford is definitely too old for this stuff but for his age and the story it wasn't too bad. Definitely hope this is it though. And don't want to see Shia in any other kind of Indiana Jones Jr sequels.

Oh and good point BB, I forgot how the Iranians made a big deal of 300. The bigger a deal these idiots make the more pub they give a project.

Re: Indiana Jones

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:14 am
by cs_cdkey4
It was entertaining in some parts but didnt live up to what i was expecting......

The ending and the secret of the skulls... that was so lame....

National treasure storyline wouldve been better as an Indy flick than what was in this movie...

Definitely would not watch it on the big screen in hindsight