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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:05 am
by AYHJA
Well done Mr. Obama...Well done...Now the work begins...
Re: 44
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:32 am
by Sir Jig-A-Lot
YAHOO! FUCK YEAH! HOT DIGGETY DAYUM!!!
Re: 44
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:34 am
by raum
My candidate won.
The Will of the People - the Prinicipality of the Nation.
Now, can President Elect Barack Obama please tell us what he is going to do about the loopholes in his plans? The ones NO ONE addressed that occur with every progressive liberal attempt for governent, and have never been covered by plans like he is envisioning?
NOTE: the Reverend Wright issue was a HUGE factor in me not voting for McCain...
Celebrate America.
Re: 44
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:36 am
by AYHJA
Well raum, we'll surely find out...One way or the other... :)
But celebrate America...Yeah...I can dig it...Out with the old, in with the new, maybe things will turn around even if in a placebo kind of way...
Re: 44
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:10 am
by raum
Kumicho wrote:Well raum, we'll surely find out...One way or the other... :)
But celebrate America...Yeah...I can dig it...Out with the old, in with the new, maybe things will turn around even if in a placebo kind of way...
McCain was not the old. i still don't buy the rhetoric, and neither does obama:
"Senator Obama told Senator McCain he was consistently someone who has showed class and honor during this campaign as he has during his entire life in public service," Gibbs said in a statement. "Senator Obama said he was eager to sit down and talk about how the two of them can work together."
Gibbs quoted Obama as saying to McCain: "I need your help, you're a leader on so many important issues"
McCain was never a Bush. He was one of the most popular and progressive senators working across party lines. It was his undoing that Obama's rhetoric stuck to him, and then it became a major issue, because his advisors began to model his behavior and his own rhetoric in a way that reinforced it.
The reality is this:
Obama had to campaign longer and more and spend more money, and get people who never EVER voted. he did not win the election until he redefined it... and some of it was playing dirty... but if a president can't play dirty, he wont do anything.
i am more excited to see a president get line by line veto authority. that is a bold step no one trusted bush with...
but obama's first step has to be to go back and WRECK the congress - which is against the will of the people... and that will require some serious work; cause those are democrats in charge.
what I meant was
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:11 am
by AYHJA
Out with the old = George Bush...
Re: 44
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:13 am
by blixa
Cheers America....you made my day :)
Re: 44
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:19 am
by raum
Kumicho wrote:Well raum, we'll surely find out...One way or the other... :)
But celebrate America...Yeah...I can dig it...Out with the old, in with the new, maybe things will turn around even if in a placebo kind of way...
sir, you have known me too long to not know that i look for my own answers, and my decisions must be as informed as possible... and i do not rest until i am satisfied.
I got play by play sheets of Barack's senate career. he just played it slick. It really left him so obscure no criticism could sound rational. but i didn't get my answer.
I look forward to the future - and do not fear it.
as for out with Bush - i'd say with out with certain parts... but if you intellectually detatch yourself from your own economic situation, if it is poor... bush did some good things - and could have done more with line by line vetos. I don't care though - I never voted for either of them. i just know all presidents have interlocking legacies... First president I voted for, i served. that was for me, a very intimate experience. and damn the impeaching of Clinton. (I have never said otherwise!)
line by line vetos are necessary - or you get an all or none kind of president. hopefully, this is the end of that era... so yeah.
...and for GODS' sake, Barack - don't be another Carter.