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Karma

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:55 am
by AYHJA
While I may lack the scholastic proof of the word Karma, the idea is the same...I brought up the idea of it in another thread and this is the tangent of it...I basically said in reference to a man that had wrongfully accused of being locked up in jail for 19 years for a crime that he didn't commit, that he must have done something, IE, put himself in a position to be accused...

Case and point being, it is VERY hard these days to be completely accused of something you didn't have anything to do with...The matter of which I am thinking about revolves around the golden rule...

You do onto others, as you would have them do onto you...You reap what you sow, etc...Nothing complex about that idea, right..?

For instance, if you're out driving home, after you've had a few drinks, but you aren't drunk...You aren't swerving on and off the road, nothing like that...But you get stopped at a random roadblock, and that ass gets hauled off ot jail...You may have had the same amount of alcohol every night for a year, and made it home super safely every night...But don't drink and drive means...Don't drink and drive...Simple as that...You may not have been drunk, but that ass had been drinking, and you can be hauled off to jail for that shit, and bitch and complain about it all you want, etc...

That's what I'm talking about, especially in that instance...

I spent 4 or 5 years in college, and never once got in trouble with the law, well, aside from some nasty ass parking tickets and all that... /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" /> I was at every party, working if I wasn't playing, and had every little chance to get into the same trouble that my friends did...I didn't...

I wasn't out running trains on chicks, getting drunk as fuck, and acting like all I cared about was having fun...It may not be entirely right, but in this society, you are guilty by association...It isn't acceptable to say, "I didn't do it," when your ass is all around it...If you're in my car, smoking weed, and I don't take one pull of it, if we get pulled over, we BOTH going to jail...I think it is foolish to think otherwise...

I had a cousin that got a full scholarship to play football at Clemson when we got out of high school...He was the most talented running back in the state, on our football team, which finished ranked 12th in the nation...He was at a house party where they were running a train on a girl...He didn't partake in the activities, but he may as well have, cause when that girl's fried walked in and saw her gettin' beast fucked by a gang of football players, she cried rape...

So, there was my cousin, on sports center...Not cause he was scoring touchdowns, but because he was sittin' in a room where some bitch was gettin' it all pushed in and he stayed there...She eventually cracked on the stand, and the charges were dropped, but the damage was done...

So, I won't attempt to be coy, and say that some of the shit that I do that is good, and I do out of the goodness of my heart that I am not rewarded for it...And I won't say the same vice versa either...That guy may not have done THAT rape, but his ass probably did something, or maybe it was God's will, or whatever...I can only speak from my POV, which isn't a position that can be argued...

Karma? Maybe, maybe not, but I have seen whatever you wish to call it work in the most ironic of ways...If you didn't do good deeds, would you still expect to be treated well..? Why is it that, when you do something that isn't so good, that these rules need to change..?

Do you think ((( karma aka cosmic retrebution and reward ))) exists..? Why or why not, and in what capacity..?

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:40 am
by trashtalkr
I really wouldn't call the golden rule karma. I think that it's totally different. I view karma kind of like superstition. I may be way off with that, but that's what I think when I think of karma.

BTW I don't think that superstition is real...

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:30 am
by Fapper
yeah karma another thing to justify things, keep digging people.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:17 pm
by deepdiver32073
I don't believe in Karma as in the "cosmic what goes around comes around" where what you did in a "past life" affects what is happening to you today. I'm more from the school where, like AYHJA stated, if you put yourself in situations where trouble is likely to occur, you will eventually reap the consequences. I am responsible for what I do each and every day. What I do has consequences, some good, some not so good. Nut up and take responsibility for what you're doing and don't pass it off on some poor schmuck that happened to live before you.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:14 pm
by trashtalkr
I agree that you are responsible for what you do. I firmly believe in that. But I just didn't view that as karma.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:26 pm
by AYHJA
^^

Well, as RAUM corrected my terminology in the other thread, Karma isn't the right word for what I'm talking about...I can't reproduce that long word tho, LoL...But, basically, the idea is as said at the end of my first post, cosmic retribution and reward, which people have mistakenly called Karma...I just used that term because it is more like to be familiar with the concept I was trying to talk about...

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:31 am
by trashtalkr
Ok. I don't believe that the cosmos gets you back for what you do or that the cosmos is responsible for what you do. If that's what you're saying.

I'm kind of confused...

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:46 am
by Aemeth
Hmm,

I think that yes, you reap what you sow, but do not think it has to do with some cosmo payback. It is simply too inconsistant to be true. Justice does present itself in ironic ways, but i do not think cosmic payback exists, at least not in the sense we are talking about here..

Maybe within one's self, but not externally..

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:26 pm
by AYHJA
In this instance, the cosmos represents the unseen rewards and punishments you accumulate in life...If you believe that you reap what you sow, then that is more or less the idea behind what we have mistakenly called Karma...

The truth of the matter is that most people are hard headed...You can be told something, but the majority of the lessons that one learns in life is the result of the ones that life teaches you...

Most of what happens to us is the result of a decision, and often in split seconds...As it is commonly said about love, such is true in life, it is always the little things...

Why would you live a life in fear of something, if you didn't think that it woudl ultimately come back to haunt you..? You may not see it right away, but I do believe the effects of our "karma" are immediate and are a subtle or outlandish as the things that put them there...

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:35 am
by Logic
I believe what comes around goes around.. That is all...

There is instances when you do put yourself in a situation and would get in trouble but for some odd reason, you get lucky and get a nice breatk.. I had a couple of them..

Like 2 weeks ago, We helped some dude that was stuck in the snow.. The next day, one of my cousins were driving (he was there to help us get the car unstuck) and he aint supposed to drive and he tried doing a donut and went into a ditch into like 3 ft of snow.. Luckily, a guy with a 4x4 truck and a 4 wheeler came along the rode and stopped within 1 minute of the crash.. and we were only down the street from his house so we were lucky we got that bitch out cause we definitly couldnt push it..