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Alright, time to go in-depth on this one..

AYHJA says energy cannot be created or destroyed, as if to emphasize that not reincarnating would destroy energy (I think thats what he's saying at least). But, with the population of the world constantly growing, where are all this energy to create new souls coming from? More people are born than die every year, so there has to be an additional source of energy if reincarnation were to be true by the above mentioned theory.

The Bible consistantly makes references to living good for the treasure of heaven, and there is no reference anywhere that hints toward reincarnation as oppose to an eternal judgement upon physical death, right?

I still am not sure, but I am leaning towards the heaven/hell thing..

When I say energy cannot be created or destroyed, I am simply saying that an absolute truth of the universe exists and is present, we cannot avoid that...

When thinking about complex type issues, you can do like I do, and see that the simplest answer is usually the best answer, and the correct answer stripped of detail...

All things of this known universe are composed of energy/matter...This is true...

If you take a piece of wood, and burn it, it will no longer be wood, it will change its form, its energy is felt as heat...When you freeze water in a container, the opposite happens...If your life, for example can be looked at as water boiling in a pot with the lid on it...And your death is represented by that lid being removed...Your body (the pot) remains as is, but your essence has now changed...

You, in another form, can become a part of something else...

It is my belief that when you work hard in this life, when your lid is opened, you can hold your steam together long enough and well enough to intergrate into something else...

That is what I think of when I think of reincarnation...Holding together your life force...To me, that explains innate ability, decision making, etc...I do believe and have been told that there are no more new souls on earth, after the last World War...Everyone born since, has been here before...

I have heard that energy source be called, "The Gulf," but alas, I must eat my shit, because I can't remember my sources right now...

But if reincarnation is true, then what's the point of life? Why not go crazy and kill yourself and others and not give a shit about anything. You're gonna come back anyway. Who cares about now when you can have 1 million other lives after it?

well mate reincarnation accounts fo karma and what u do in this life determines what u will be in ur next life and whether u you enjoy it or live in misery ........ the universe in self sustenance meaning that there is nothin new coming in and nothing going out ..............eveything stays here but only in different forms as ayhja says water nd ice so if ur too bad in this life time u mite be born as a worm or something in the next life to work off all ur so called sins ......... so that the universe reaches an equilibrium like the ying yang ...........which means there is the same level of good as there is evil in the universe and Annihilating either one cud hav dire consequences fo the universe resuting in the destruction of everything

so reincarnation actually keeps the universe in self sustenance and at an equilibrium

and oh yea Deeje about the treasure of heaven .............i hav sed this earlier and im going to say it again .............heaven and hell are both on earth ...........if u can live a life full of misery and or u can live a life full of joy .................thats the heaven and hell ...............

The treasure of heaven isnt confined to a place where everything is jus heavenly .............lol......... it isnt some magical place or an alternate universe if u want earth can be so magical and it can be the most depressing place ever ..................so from me heaven and hell all belong on this planet we call earth

QUOTE(trashtalkr)But if reincarnation is true, then what's the point of life? Why not go crazy and kill yourself and others and not give a shit about anything. You're gonna come back anyway. Who cares about now when you can have 1 million other lives after it?

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I have two questions...

1) Did you write that in response to what I said..?

2) Whether you wrote that in response to what I said or not, you read what I wrote and still typed that response..?

Maybe you can convince RAUM to write a thread on The Tree of Life...That's the only way that I can think to have it relate to you, but, you mayn't be ready or able to hear that...

If there was x amount of people/souls before the war, and x+y now, i can understand this theory if the amount was the same, but where do the souls that occupy y come from?

or trace it all the way back. There were only two souls to begin with (actually one). The Bible only talks about God creating people through His divine will once (with Hadem) so I dont think God tosses out some fresh souls to make up for a shortage caused by people gettin some action too often, eh?

And heaven and hell are not on earth. They have nothing to do with anything physical, at least not that I know of.

Who knows, maybe energy changes form when we die, into a kind of spiritual energy for a heaven/hell that exists on an entire different plane...plus how/when did Jesus speak of reincarnation to another physical body? I can tell you, however, that he made references to eternal judgement after death a lot more..

lets see ...............souls do not only exist in humans .................animals hav souls and so do other small creatures that become extinct everyday ....... jus think of the many thousands of creatures that die everyday such as ants and flies that we kill in our own homes ..........they too do hav souls and well as i sed b4 the universe in is self sustenance ....... so animals that die such as ants and other creatures become humans and other animals so on..................the universe has taught itself well not to hav to create new things........everyday the population of some creatures get serioulsy low and well i guess u hav yet to adjust fo the deaths of humans in that x and y equation of urs

and well if u look at the bible it no where mentions the creation of Dinosaurs but well all know that dino s did exist and if humans were created the same time then well why was it neva mentioned in the bible .............

I must confess i do not hav much information on what the bible holds within it and i know beta to speak badly about ny religious book but no holy book in the world has ever accounted fo Evolution ...........not that i know of ................

And about the sayin that heaven and hell are on earth is jus my personal opinion and whether it holds tru i dont really know but everything regarding reincarnation pushes me more firmly into beliveing that it is on earth

I do not believe animals have souls. That idea is absurd to me. Evolution claims humans are merely a physical step up from them, but the Bible suggests they are an emotional and spiritual step up too..

Men have souls....animals don't

That's what seperates us from them...

QUOTET‚²  

I have two questions...  

1) Did you write that in response to what I said..?  

2) Whether you wrote that in response to what I said or not, you read what I wrote and still typed that response..?

I said that for anyone who believes in reincarnation