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Why are there so many Different Religions?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:43 pm
by Fapper

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:18 pm
by raum
yeah, that pretty much sums it up. Some wanna nail, some wanna screw.

BTW, before I had my coffee, that ISP logger (that displays just for me) was pretty freaky.

heheh, good troll.

vertical,
raum

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:22 pm
by Fapper
Ok, the joke is very funny ... now why does someone has to tell you wich one choose, just because a screw looks more complex than a nail?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:34 pm
by AYHJA
Fercho...

Perhaps it is because you can't follow what we talk about here in VU, or you just want to try and make light of a situation that many people take seriously...Let me help you out with that...

** moved to the troll section **

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:43 am
by raum
well, I actually took the message in a different way.

Your question is
"Why are there so many different religions?"

I see four frames, which fits well into my model of the dimensions.

See, I started from the bottom, as that is where most bottoms are found.

first, we have a scene of worship with a Priest class, and a worshipper who is facing the unfaceable. He is not wholly bowing down in blind obedience. His expression is showing skepticism. He questions the icon of the "screw." He notices the downward spiral of the process he undergoes, and acknowledges it. But he is a "man among men" and so he kneels, under the hand of the Priest. His skepticism shows he is ready for Truth.

Next, we have a contradicting scene. A Priest, conveying a gesture and a word, while standing on level ground. He also point up, with his index finger, one of the signs of tangible authority. Simultaneously, we are shown an image of the priest leading a procession, of the worshipper in tow. He bears his standard before him, which bears the Alchemical sybol for "Salt" on its Top. The symbol of "Salt" stands for Tradition, and symbolizes the formula of preservation through inertia. it is the substance which creates "endurance", but also begets ignorance, when imabalanced. Thus, even though he follows "tradition" (which is seen leaning upon the transferrance of the gesture and the word in adjoined image), he is prompted to remain in motion, lest ignorance sets in.

The next image one of the ordeal of the Worshipper, which will make him an Initiate. He is warned against something, the inspiration of dread and taboo lends to a liminal state that causes the mind to be shocked, and brings a flow of adrenaline that aligns the body and the mental focus. He is shown a "danger" or "advesary" which is barred from his path.

Next to this image, is a melodrama of the "Left foot forward" which is the first step of Intiation. we also see that the procession show beforehand, also began left foot forward. This can be studied at great length to be understood properly. This left step forward, though a symbol of the awful power of the Destroyer of Destroyers (a name for the Lord of the Universe), also destroys the obstacles that block the path to ascension.

Next we see the Master, but without a follower. Instead we see behind him is a Tree has firmly taken roots (in tradition) and seeks to bring forth its own leaf, bud, and fruit. Then, that wholly complete process will create of itself a Tree of Life, which will cast its own seed to the wind, that will face the same ordeal.

Finally, we see, that the Initiate leaves behind his Master (who secretly watches from beyond the horizon) as the Initiate readies himself for the overcoming of the obstacle before him. The Initiate readies himself in a position of reverance before the Nail (Vau in hebrew, The name of the Third Letter in Yod Heh Vau Heh, or YHVH. Vau symbolizes Taurus, the Heirophant, the preserver of Tradition and Opener of the Ways of Initiation. Also Vau is ruled By Venus, called Nogah in Hebrew "or Brightness, and is aligned to Netzach, which is "Victory." This victory being over the obstacles of the illusion of self.)

We also take note, that while he kneels in front of the Nail, to address it, he is not worshipping it. His hands are not on the ground before it. Neither does he worship it in essence, for his hands are not aligned in prayer. He is rubbing them together, producing friction with his hands, and it is that secret of warmth in himself (the secret heart of hearts) that he is acknowledging. This core of his own essential self, as he prepares to destroy the illusion of "sacrifice" and overcome Hell and Death. This is the same Truth that exists that encodes itself in our daily existence as the very Sun that brings forth the Light of Day; which is the most apt metaphor for self realization.

This image is a perfect visual synthesis of the entire philosophy of self Mastery, and the Path of Initiation.

Fapper, you are truly a wise troll.

vertical,
raum

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:45 am
by raum
btyw,

I'd like this back in Vertical University, if you don't mind.

vertical,
raum

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:34 am
by trashtalkr
I agree. this should be a VU topic

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:46 am
by AYHJA
Thank you for making this a VU topic, RAUM...

I know I overlooked the significance in the cartoon...

I'm sure all of that is news to the poster as well, CDR...

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:25 pm
by Fapper
Well Raum i must say that the wiseman was Quino (The artist who made the drawing) that's the clever one, I'm glad you finally understand the motivus of me posting that in there.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:57 pm
by x3n
Quino=genius, in pretty much ANY topic, IMHO.