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what do you think is the state of hip hop? is it dead, dying or still creative and new?

creative and new? I think its far from that.

No one has a voice anymore. I can't tell this rapper from that rapper....and their messages are all the same.

That is killing hip hop.

You can say that again. The beginning of the end was the whole 'bling' bullshit era. The only thing producers look for now are anthems that are catchy and will get alot of radio airplay. Unfortunately I don't think rap will ever get back to the glory days of the early-mid 90s.

Agreed.

There will never be another Tupac....but they'll be a hundred more 50 Cent's...T.I.'s...The Game's..

I think hip hop IS changing. Just look at what Kanye West has done. He isn't your typical rapper at all. Hasn't husstled a day in his life, came for a good fam, and all the good stuff. He really is changing the face of hip hop

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 99,00.html

How so?


Don't post an article...this is your opinion...not what an article says.

I don't follow Kanye West...because from what I've heard...I'm not impressed.


I've heard his latest song "Golddigger" and the best part about it...is Jamie Foxx.

I've heard some Kanye West productions that have been hott...where he does the beat or something.....but him as a rapper.....is a no-go. ESP. not someone who is "changing Hip-Hop"

LG, you tellin me you don't like Kanye?

He is one of the most creative customers fittin the rap bill... that gets publicity and deserves it. I love golddigger.

He drops a bit of truth in that diddy, and puts a form of humor back inrap that was missing since dj jazzy jeff and fresh prince.

cause you young cat's got it twisted. Hip-hop was rap music about feeling good and celebrating life, even when it was a bit fucked up- cheerleading for thugs. that's it. but not all rap was hip-hop.

half of what goes for hip-hop now would not have flown as hip-hop in my day, but it would have flown, and high.

no one said rap ever had to be provocative, but SOMETIMES its nice when it is. other times, i am quite fine laughing at kanye or even ludacris.

I am tryin to check out tech n9ne to get your point of view on the hip hop scene's triumphs, but i got work coming out the seams...

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I posted the article because it says how he's changed it and I didn't want to keep typing. It is my opinion that he has changed hip hop....that site was just backing me up.

WOW.

The thread is titled hip-hop, not hip-pop.

It is flourishing now, just as it has been since its origins. Ima break it down for yall via the holy trinity of hip-hop: kicks, rap, and streetball.

Kicks:

Hot as ever. Jordan 20s sold nicely, Dub Zero's as well, Jordan 13s have been fire, and the 10's are heating up dangerously quick as well (those are the most recent Jays released). Bapes have been selling like crack, and even Ice Creams have survived, with all the problems they've had. AF1 are as hot as ever thanks to Paul Rodriguez and others who popularized the "SB's" (nikes skate line). Reebok, thanks to Stevie Williams, RBKs first skater, is projected to jump in the skate game as well. Plus, kicks never get played out. Jordan 11 still hits $400 occasionally on ebay, hell, I just dropped $250 for some 3's. Adidas is making noise too with their 35th anniversary shoe, where only 35 pairs were made, and "golden tickets" (winners got you a pair of 35th's) were given out after one took a pic next to a special 35th anniversery poster found at some stores, got it developed, and took it to certain participating stores. Tickets ALONE were selling for $200 on ebay. Sole Collector magazine sells for more on ebay than on their website (and believe me, I'm on this money maker /:D" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt=":D" />). The kicks game is alive and well, and always will be in my opinion.

Rap:

Though mainstream sucks right now, underground is becoming better and better. Talib Kweli, Mos Def and Common, I think, really need to save mainstream since they are in the best positions to do so. The only mainstream artist I really like is Jay-Z, hopefully he's not done /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />..But underground, theres a ton of intellectual, sick lyricists making moves..Though hip-pop is sucking right now, I think it will recover, ppl just gotta STOP SELLING OUT.

Streetball:

Also doing well, And 1 mixtapes have gone from experimental to household, now with 7 volumes out and the tour going all over the world. As long as Rucker Park, The Cage, etc exist, so will good streetball. NBA Street series is up to 3 volumes, and each has been absolutely adored by its fans.


I think hip-hop is alive and well, though pop urban music is sucking right now