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Hell freezes over...
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:58 pm
by raum
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:28 pm
by AYHJA
Well I'll be damned....LMAO...
Everyone should have been in VU anyway, and they'd know what's up... /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Interesting and worth note, is the ending of the article...
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:33 pm
by trashtalkr
What has the world come to. This is really sad that they did this. I believe the Bible is accurate and it's proven. I can't believe the Catholic church
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:58 pm
by BFG9000
Proves it right there, you can't trust anything anymore
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:46 am
by raum
insert picture of "buddy" christ here.
i love how they try to tell you EXACTLY what is untrue... and how they could ahve had this view centuries ago, and my family would not have been hunted down and killed for questioning the absurdity...
when do we get restitution? i want my family's land back that stolen by the church...
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:51 pm
by iMNO
"This is the end...My only friend, the end."
~Jim Morrison
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:31 pm
by raum
trash,
what do you mean the Bible is "proven"
UM, the BIBLE WAS NOT WRITTEN - MUCH LESS PROVEN.
IT WAS TRANSLATED COMPILED - EDITED - REVISED - RE-EDITED - RE-TRANSLATED - RE-EDITED - **EXPANDED**(to include the WRITINGS) - REVISED - TRANSLATED - REVISED - EXPANDED (TO INCLUDE THE NEW TESTAMENT)- CONDENSED - MANDATED - UPDATED - TRANSLATED - REVISED and RE-TRANSLATED.
(just to get from the proto-hebraic texts to the Vulgate Latin, approved and mandated by the Holy Roman Empire, which is the great great grandfather of the King James Version.)
I'll give a nickel for every verse of the original texts you can speak in the proto-Hebraic original. (pre Davidian mandate)
In fact, if you can tell me what "Barashith Bara Elohim Eth Ha-Shamayim va-eth Ha-Aretz." means, I'd be amazed.
that's the first verse of Berashith (Genesis 1:1), by the way, and it means:
"Before the First Celestial Movements; Created by the Elohim, is the Shamayim and The Ground."
Elohim is broken down thus -
El
(Canaanite name for God - means Might and Strength, root of Ayil - the Canaaninte word for "Ram"
- which is also the word Ayil, "Power or Strength" in Hebrew, as well as "ram, Deer, or Buck..."
which is also the root of Elo, the hebrew word for "GODDESSES"
Eloah are the female El. the "im" indicates it is plural.
Thus literally:
"Before the First Celestial Movements, Created by The Goddesses , is the Sky and The Ground."
The meaning of Elohim is further complicated by the fact that it is used to describe the spirit of the dead prophet Samuel, raised by Saul in 1 Samuel 28:13. The witch of Endor tells Saul that she sees elohim coming up out of the earth (translated as "gods" in English in this example, because the Witch; this seems to indicate that the term was indeed used simply to mean something like 'paranormal beings' in some parts of ancient Israel.
The reasoning is simple, the Abron are not same people as the Yiddin. The Abron were henotheistic, and held that many gods and goddesses existed and each played their part in attendence to El, who is the Head of All gods. His name means "The Force," literally. They understood each of the facets of the Force is best understood by personifying it, so one can relate its use to the understanding of your own existence. That is the gift we recieve in this life. All else is a curse.
The yiddin decide to mandate ONE God, and can only resolve their kingdom by saying, "Well, he has one being, but many names..."
the reason for goddesses is simple, the work of making these things is the preparation of the womb. The anology is that of a woman maturing, so she may bear the children of the Father; thus becoming the Mother.
It was with the coming of totalitarian government, that monotheism was developed, and women were no longer considered of having a holy purpose.
vertical,
raum
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:37 pm
by Lost Ghost
def. belongs in VU.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:00 pm
by AYHJA
QUOTE(Lost Ghost)def. belongs in VU.
Word...
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:48 pm
by bd55
If I remember correctly there were 9 versions of the bible before it was actually compiled as such. There must be thousands of written materials in the Vatican that were not used in the version we know.