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Religious McDonald's Sign Draws Attention In Raleigh
Woman Asks Restaurant To Remove Sign, 'Jesus Is The Reason For The Season'

POSTED: 7:16 am EST December 14, 2005
UPDATED: 10:25 am EST December 14, 2005

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Everyone celebrates religion and holidays in their own individual ways, but currently there are questions about whether the two should be more connected. One of the latest places involved in the controversy is a McDonald's restaurant in Raleigh.

The sign at McDonald's on the corner of Falls of Neuse and Spring Forest Road reads: "Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season." It is a holiday message that Amanda Alpert thinks comes on a little too strongly.

"It offends me because it specifically talks about Jesus, Merry Christmas. It doesn't give credit to anyone else," Alpert said.

Alpert called the McDonald's corporate office in Atlanta and requested that the sign be changed to the politically correct Happy Holidays. The response was the owner has the right to do what she wants with the sign.

"I care because I'm Jewish, and the reason for the season is upsetting to me," Alpert said.

None of the drivers WRAL spoke to were offended by the sign.

"I've always known it to be Merry Christmas, and it is Jesus' birthday," said Tom David of Smithfield.

It's a debate that's struck a chord nationally and locally. The White House Christmas card surprised some with its "Happy Holiday Season" message. A proposed nativity scene in Raleigh recently drew a crowd at council chambers.

McDonald's managers say the sign has been good for business. They say church groups have stopped by to eat, and some people who usually don't eat food from McDonald's have stopped by because of the sign. The store's owner did not return WRAL's calls.

From: http://www.wral.com/news/5532271/detail.html

Damn, can't a bitch just get he fucking happy meal and be out..? If you don't want to be offended, please, by all means, stay the fuck inside your house, don't turn on the TV, radio, or the fucking internet...

For me, its just another reason to not step foot into a McDonalds.

You won't step foot in a McDonalds because they said Merry Christmas? What the fuck? The name of the holiday is Christmas. If you don't like that then go shoot yourself

Trash,

You better step off, yo. You know coming up on me with a "why don't you just shoot yourself comment" ain't cool. I bet there is less than five people here who doubt you are bitin off a battle you can't win. Don't make me go after your lil ass with both guns full of paper written or stolen by your own religion. You can't cope with half of it.

But Here, tell me ONE DAMN PLACE in the Bible it EVER indicated the mass of the Christ is held on the 25 day of the Solar Month of December, when no flocks being tended witould be out in the Jewish month of Kislev, because they would freeze to death!!!! Much less when the "FUCKING CALENDAR WAS LUNAR until the fucking 1400's, and nativity was decried as a heresy? Goddamn, what a fucking ignorant people. Isiah said this shit wuld happen. check it.

In fact, it wasn't until 1000 B.C. that the natalia or Christ masse become a holiday, as celebrating ANY birth is a sin according to the earliest tenets of the schools of christianity, as it was in Judiasm until christain influence abounded, and only the worst of sinners celebrate a day of birth, their own or others as a holy day.

Come talking about me shooting myself after you just lost someone over some shit like that, right - cause you can't handle not everyone swallows the mangled truth which is a perversion of your own prophet. The original Christian significance of this time of year is THIS IS WHEN THE MESSIACH DISAPPEARED TO BE TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL, ya ignorant twit. It's why the devil showed up as a fire,.. Cause it was so fucking cold, and it was to try and temp Jeshua to seek comfort from him, while he fasted alone in the desert, instead of feasting with his friends and family. It was why it was such a big deal, because he did so for Channukah, which is a holiday held on the 25th day of Kislev - and not even a religious holiday. It is simply a day illustrating the purity and endurance of the Aish Tamid of the Menorah Iudim Ha-Qadosh.

But more importantly, it is Winter solstice, letting us know we are half way to spring. woo. That makes it Yule.

so fuck off an have a happy bullshit of a new year that has nothing to do with the actual new year in any intelligent reasoning of the world..

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and for the record, I won't step foot into a goddamn Mcdonalds because their food is shit, and they are part of this absolute lowest common denominator of human existence fighting over signs and words they don't even understand ,.. and i refuse to contribute to that absolute waste of human existence.. and the fact people are arguing over bullshit like the wall hangings or the temperature of the coffee constantly. The argument is why i wouldn't step in there, not the goddam well-wishing. but don't you think you can put this shit in my face and get off without me getting my licks in.

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Here's some more "Christmas for ya":

Jeremiah 10:2-4 forbids Christmas trees as a heathen practice:

"Thus sayeth the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen ... for the customs of the people are vain: for one cuteth the tree out of the forest ... they deck it with silver and gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."

Matthew 15:9 tell s of jesus forbiding the worship of himself, or commemoration of his tradition or birth

"Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites...in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the traditions of men...thus making the word of God of none effect." (Mark 7: 6-7)

and I am sorry, but if you are going to say some bullshit about American tradition... your precious holiday started as a national holiday in that Academic promised land of Alabama, in 1836. Louisiana and Arkansas followed in 1838. And much darker traditions have started in those same areas.


For someone talking big about Science, you got a lot to fucking learn about debunking them damn fairy tales you were fed off ya mamma's titty.

oh and Santa Nicklaus was real, but your Pauline Jesus never was.,.. damn, ain't that some shit?

Veritas et Aequitas,
raum

QUOTE(raum)
In fact, it wasn't until 1000 B.C. that the natalia or Christ masse become a holiday,  
raum

99% of what you said is true raum, except for this one... should be AD, not BC. Kind of hard to make a holiday before the fact. LOL

In actuality, most Biblical scholars put the birth sometime in the mid to late Spring of 3 BC (yes, the calendars are screwed up!)

I know that his real birth was most likely in spring, but that isn't when his birth is celebrated. It's celebrated in December to counter some pagan holiday. I don't give a shit about Christmas trees...I think they are a pain also. What I'm pissed about is that you said that one of the reasons you won't step into McDonald's is because they said Merry Christmas. I dont' give a shit if you don't believe in Christ or if you're offended by it. It's that time of year and not going in there b/c of that is fuckin stupid

...not nearly as stupid as changing the birth date of your saviour in a pathetic effort to mask another celebration which IN NO WAY takes from or contradicts his teachings.

what you simply DO NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND is that I NEVER EAT AT [McDonald's], regardless of the time of year, and this kind of idiocy is yet anther validation of my decision to do so. you presume this is just my holiday stance.

I though I made that abundantly clear. For the record, I usually cook most of my own meals, of fresh ingredients, purchased at a international foods store swith a respectable kosher section, and usually only eat at resturants where they use fresh ingredients. (and my fast food guilt is NEVAR a mcDonald's run! ick!) i just threw up a little thinking about that nasty shit. but i will likely drop a fresh cheese steak back in philly this week,., word is bond.

But if a mass produced sign in a McDonald's makes you proud of your religion's power,... ba-aa. good sheep.


and it just happens to be a perfect marketing stance for McDonald's to take, based on their demographics.

by the way what about that Christian messiah saying "don't worship me, or hold my traditions among men?"

focus on the message, not the messanger. he knew it, and all ya'll can do is fight to have a bow on a big mac.

fucking sad.

I can understand if you don't eat at McDonald's b/c of their fake food. I dont' eat there either. But this is what you said "For me, its just another reason to not step foot into a McDonalds." Another reason...as if you had a problem with it.

I don't know where the Christian Messiah said "don't worship me" if he really even said it. I don't care about the traditions that man has set up to worship Him...I worship him in my own way.