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the big apple grids to a halt

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:14 pm
by raum
what am i the only one who noticed this??

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:45 pm
by AYHJA
I guess..?

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:07 pm
by deepdiver32073
No... but maybe the only one who cared? Sorry, NY doesn't have a whole lot of relevence to me down here. That sounds harsher than I intend for it to be, but I can't get worked up about bus drivers in NYC going on strike.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:52 pm
by raum
you can't get worked up on a UNION leading striking of PUBLIC TRANSIT WORKERS which are the established legal rights of the citizens and guests of the largest city in America, New York City, with a mass spanning more than 25 miles? what about the fact that it is less than 16 degrees with a wind chill factor, and less than 60% of the city have access to a car? What about the fact that it is four days till Christmas in a city where more than half the city is impoverished or visting from another country?

Man, I live prolly three and half hours from the city, by car on moderate taffic with consistent flow.

Even this far out, You can see people having to drive from philly, where they live, to New York where they work,.. and there is no parking so they have to drive home or they can't even get across the bridge because there is not four people in their car!!! And they have to go anyways, or they can't work to meet end of the year deadlines that their jobs depend on. If you can't telecommute, you are crippled. There are people who have to pay more than their days wage in taxi cab fees, to just to keep their fucking job! It's maddening to me. there are people living in hotels close to work because it is cheaper than a cab back and forth, and the SEVEN hours it can take to get there.

I believe transit workers have rights and those rights need to be addressed fairly, but the union's desire is just to get a larger piece of the capital gains of the city system it is being paid to run. It is compounding its issues in wth the workers who are obligated to strike.

and its doing so during the busiest time of the year, though the possibility existed to do so at much less crucial times.

goodwill, my ass. i would throw the union bosses in a pound-them-in-the-ass jail, for costing New York hundreds of millions of dollars in damages though breach of contract, which is vital to fuel the housing, education, and law enforcement needs.

God pray New York not be the victim of some terrorist action now. Millions would possibly die.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:12 pm
by x3n
Stranded, NYC Heads to the Web

By Rachel Metz

04:11 PM Dec. 20, 2005 PT

MANHATTAN, New York -- As millions of New Yorkers contend with a crippling transit strike, the web is taking center stage as a place to cope, from blowing off steam to lining up rides to and from the city.

Since members of Local 100 of The Transport Workers Union walked away from their buses and subway trains early Tuesday morning, craigslist new york city has become a virtual hub for stranded commuters. Hundreds of help postings have cropped up on the site by people offering and looking for rides. Others are renting space in their apartments as strike crash pads.

Craigslist founder Craig Newmark said he wasn't surprised at the number of postings or content on the site related to the strike, but that he and his team are trying to find a way for the site to more effectively hook up people needing help with those offering rides to work.

As for those asking money for a sleeping spot, he said, it just "seems like people are helping other people out by offering reasonable deals. This is a real crisis, and people are helping out and that's good."

This is the first such strike to hit the city since 1980, when workers walked off the job for 11 days. Then, as now, commuters had to find their way into the city using any means possible -- trekking across bridges from Queens and Brooklyn, taking rides from strangers or organizing carpools to get into Manhattan. (continues...)

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,128 ... _tophead_6

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:18 pm
by Bot
You have to give the transit people credit. Can any other organization cripple NYC this badly? I'm on the fence, though. I'm interested to see how it'll be resolved.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:48 pm
by raum
They should put the strike bosses in jail, and the unions should have to pay stiff fines, and come further under city authority. that's how. those people are paid with taxes. I know the workers (thousands of whom have tried to report to work) should be taken care of better,.. but to cripple the city costs then hundreds of millions of dollars a day that it vitally needs (and swindles into crooked pockets, but besides.) the breach of contract for loss of punitive damages for this completely malcious and ILLEGAL strike should be no less than 5 million dollars, already, and that is less than 1% of what has been lost by New York, the city we just recently exhalted after its tragedy. This is an embarrassment to the western economy, and the people who executed this strike are fully responsible. The impact of this will be felt throughout America...especially in the south ~ where ironically, the New orleans transit just got back on track despite they horrible conditions they still endure.

can you imagine the clusterfuck, if you have to be in an ambulance trying to rush to the hospital???

to flex like this and cripple the city that pays them to be reliable and available, they should be majorly penalized.

This strike only hurts those who are dependent upon this system... the people who need their work hours most.

it makes me sick. only a city as inherently flawed and beautiful as New York could have this situation develop, or hope to survive this.

I would charge them with perfidity, if not actual terrorism, which can be defined as using force to coerce or intimidate through threats which cause major disruption in the lives and non-militarized regions of a citizenry. If this is a war on no country, religion, but upon the mode of operations of private parties acting on their own accord... it easily applies.