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Americans coming to their senses?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:53 pm
by Bot
As if 50% agree... lol
Poll finds U.S. split over eavesdropping
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:31 pm
by AYHJA
Am I the only one that thinks...That because of the simple fact they ARE discussing it...Means that they are already doing it..?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:41 pm
by deepdiver32073
Dude... they've been doing it for YEARS... ever since your Dubya got the Patriot Act passed. "President Bush has defended signing secret orders allowing the National Security Agency to intercept international communications..." "Bush acknowledged signing the orders after the program was first reported in The New York Times, sparking criticism across the political gamut." "The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 states that the special court must approve any eavesdropping on U.S. citizens on American soil."
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:07 pm
by Bot
And the amazing thing is that 50% of respondents side with Bush. I figured the number would be extremely low, somewhere in the single digits. lol
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:11 pm
by deepdiver32073
I KNOW!!! My God, has no one read the Constitution?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:34 pm
by raum
there is no right to privacy from government in the constitution.
in fact, just the opposite. There is a duty to open discolure to your representative governments.
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:13 pm
by deepdiver32073
I beg to differ:
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:02 pm
by raum
See, the Bill of Rights guarantees it, but not the Constitution. America's genuine policy on such privacy, was as a Democracy of Open Disclosure, privacy could only serve to convolute the integrity of Congressional view of Public Opinion.
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:05 pm
by deepdiver32073
I consider the Bill of Rights to be part of the Constitution since the Constitution was not ratified without it.
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:30 pm
by raum
I consider it the first evidence of privateering, which has become an american way.
so, oh well.
you get what you invoke, yeah?